Tilt vs Paul Van Dyk - Rendezvous lead sound

Discussion in 'how to make "that" sound' started by CMAudioz, Sep 13, 2024.

  1. CMAudioz

    CMAudioz Ultrasonic

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    thanks buddy for the effort.
    I guess ball park sounds, I've found a few sounds, clearer example of the sound in question:

    Sounds like a sawtooth mixed with something.
     
  2. clone

    clone Audiosexual

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    My original guess was the JP8000 because it sounds like one, but also because of the production date. Since you guys have a better idea of their actual studio kit lists, maybe you look into those possibilities. Based on production dates, it could have only been a Virus A, because it was the only one released as of 1997. I mention this because if you guys are going to keep tweaking synth patches collectively, why not use the dsp56300 Virus emulator OsTIrus? It is free and patches are very easy to share. Synth nerds like us love all the details of these old units, but really; if the synth is not a true analog, the Virus can very closely replicate almost anything.
     
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    CMAudioz Ultrasonic

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    On the video, Tilt mention that a JD-990 was used. I do have OsTIrus. thanks anyways.
     
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    It sounds like a simple, almost raw square wave with a fast attack & short decay to make it more prominent & sort of punchy. Could be any synth. I agree with @clone the usual suspects of that era could be JP8000 or any of the older two JDs or an Access Virus or even Yamaha's AN1X. It's the huge reverb that makes it kinda epic, typical for the genre. What i don't understand is how people get fixated on such simplistic shit hehehe. But i respect the fixation nevertheless.
    Cheers
     
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  5. clone

    clone Audiosexual

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    Do you have the Roland Cloud version of the JD-800? It's pretty nice, but I will let ChatGPT tell you why it is what I would use then. I just suggest The DSP56300 emu because it is free, cross platform, and patches can be easily shared. Along with it having all the correct features...


    Me: what is the difference between a roland jd-800 and the jd-990?

    ChatGPT said:

    The Roland JD-800 and JD-990 are both part of Roland’s JD series synthesizers, but they have some key differences:

    Roland JD-800:
    • Type: Synthesizer
    • Release Year: 1991
    • Form Factor: Desktop synth with a built-in keyboard
    • Sound Engine: Digital Linear Arithmetic (LA) synthesis, which combines sampled waveforms with digital synthesis.
    • Controls: Features a user-friendly interface with a large number of physical controls, including sliders, knobs, and buttons for real-time sound manipulation.
    • Polyphony: 16 voices
    • Program Storage: 100 preset sounds and 100 user patches.
    • Features: Known for its intuitive hands-on control panel and a powerful array of sliders and knobs that allow for extensive real-time sound editing and programming. It also includes an advanced effects section and the ability to save and recall sound settings easily.
    • Unique Characteristics: The JD-800 is highly praised for its hands-on approach to sound design, offering tactile control over various parameters, which makes it easier for users to tweak sounds in real-time.
    Roland JD-990:
    • Type: Synthesizer Module
    • Release Year: 1993
    • Form Factor: Rack-mounted unit without a keyboard
    • Sound Engine: Same LA synthesis as the JD-800, with the same core sound engine and capabilities.
    • Controls: Does not have a built-in interface for direct hands-on control like the JD-800. Instead, it relies on external MIDI controllers or software for programming and real-time adjustments.
    • Polyphony: 32 voices
    • Program Storage: More extensive storage options compared to the JD-800, including 256 preset sounds and 256 user patches. Additionally, it offers more flexibility with its memory expansion capabilities.
    • Features: Similar sound engine to the JD-800 but with increased polyphony and more storage for sounds and patches. The JD-990 also has a more extensive set of features for sound design and customization, including a broader range of effects and parameter adjustments.
    • Unique Characteristics: Being a module, it is intended for use with other MIDI controllers, making it more suitable for studio environments where physical control surfaces are not necessary. It also provides additional features and flexibility in terms of sound design and patch management.
    Summary
    • JD-800: Desktop synth with built-in keyboard and hands-on control, focusing on ease of use and real-time manipulation.
    • JD-990: Rack-mounted module with expanded polyphony and storage, designed for studio use with external MIDI control, offering more advanced features and flexibility in sound design.
    Both units share the same core synthesis technology but cater to different usage scenarios and user preferences.

    That patch in the track has a very tiny little bit of distortion in the highest frequency part of the sound. Enable the enhancer fx module and it starts saturating in a similar way.
     
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  6. Hellfire

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    I rewatched some parts of the video ... Starting from 10.42:

    "...the bottom down here this Nord lead
    again if you want to hear the the
    gritty anything that's really hard and
    gritty so towards the latter half of
    invisible and Rendezvous probably the
    best example there's a really hard synth sound
    that comes in and that is the Nord lead
    these didn't I think they got made in about 96 97
    but this is virtual analog so
    but they're amazing for that
    it was it was Modern it sounded new
    to us it was a real like didn't sound
    like the you know the m1s and the sh101s
    and the 106 and they're your typical
    analog or the typical other digital
    things this thing had like real grits
    and that that um that leads him sounds
    we've we used on a few bits and Bobs
    or variations of it so if you do hear
    something really hard edged it's
    probably out of an orderly I would say
    and then finally it's probably worth
    mentioning it's on the other side..." (ummms removed :rofl:)

    So it seems that the sound you want comes from a custom sound on Nord Lead 1. Nord Lead is from 95, Butterfly vinyl shows copyright from 97 so it can be

    More things they do... they use Waldorf Pulse 2 for arpeggiated monosyth lines. JP8000 for metallic sweeps. Juno 106 as lead line using midi for filtering. JV1080 for Children piano and others strings. JD990 from Graham/Quivver as lead sound for Rendezvous with his custom sounds and also used for percussion.
     
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    to me it sounds like saw and another osc with PWM via LFO, because the sounds is constantly changing.
     
  8. Jayster

    Jayster Kapellmeister

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    Could well be a JD-800: A simple saw with a little bit env and some moderate filtering and very moderate resonance. A very basic sound that every beginner can recreate on a JD-800 in 30 sec
     
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