They are willing though, stop spreading misinformation. There are entire Youtube channels dedicated to orchestration, like this one here: https://www.youtube.com/@OrchestrationOnline/videos
But now you are gonna say that he is not telling us the secrets, right? Noo, he is just an imposter. Even tho you haven't watched his channel nor do you have any idea about anything you are talking about.
But people are hiding secrets from you, yeah yeah you paranoid freak. Did you take your pills yet? Maybe the psych ward is a better place for you then a forum.
Fuck Audiosex, this forum used to mean something, now it's only full of lunatics rambling. Y'all scared all the interesting people off with your vain delusions.
The fact that two people liked your comment says it all. I rather lurk on garbage ass Reddit than here.

 

@ULX
Making a symphony is NOT like making a rocket. Stop talking bullshit. Mozart did it when he was 8, ffs. It's called talent. No one ever built a rocket when they were 8 because they were a prodigy. I have talent, you don't. Maybe not quite Mozart talent, but I've gone a long way because I understand music better than most people understand their native tongue. Sorry you don't, but that's life.
End of thread (for me), moving on.

 

You are trying to reason with a troll. All you have to do is realize which of these "new users with the same problem" are Foster, or maybe a new impersonator of him; and hit the ignore button.

 

Some things are a little hard to explain.
My dear, let me explain to you. I'm not talking about orchestration. Correct orchestration is very important, but it is the next step. Everything starts with a white paper in front of you. I want that stage. To be able to fill the paper step by step. If someone wrote a piece and an orchestrator orchestrated it, it doesn't work very well to come and teach it on the internet. You have to write a piece yourself from scratch. Spend a week or a month on a piece and you write everything yourself. Analyzing ready-made pieces does not make someone a piece writer.

If you want to divide the number of orchestrators to composers, their number is 100 to 1 or even more. Someone writes something and some orchestrators have fun start playing it with different musical instruments.
Even if you do the work of orchestration for a thousand years, you will not become a composer. Orchestration science is different from composition science. Although some people can claim that they have many common points, but these common points do not solve the problem. Sit down and write a piece, then see what I'm talking about.

 

There is no such thing as talent. Everything ends in secret training. Those who are taught these secret teachings by the mysterious masters, produce things that others think all of this comes from that person's talent, when the reality is the same as I told you:

Secret training

 

Tutorials are mostly for beginners to explain how effects affect your music and that arrangement, sound design or sample picking is the most important part of all and how it all works together.
Tips and tricks from the pro's is mostly about the philosophy of the music. Creativity can't be taught but there are guidelines.
Music theory on the other hand is widely available in pro detail.

 

I can prove to you that almost all the sentences you wrote are wrong.
The only problem here is that, unfortunately, a ceiling has been set on the Internet in providing content for progress in various fields, and no one can pass this ceiling. The reason was the lack of detailed information about different things. None of the different learning chains is complete and there are many gaps in the field of education.
In order to reach your destination on a rail, that rail must be built from start to finish and you must have a reliable means of moving on that rail. Unfortunately, almost all tutorials are like incomplete rails that do not lead you to a specific destination. All training rails are intentionally damaged and broken and out of order.

 

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You did not prove me wrong, try harder. I was not speaking about practise makes perfect. And since you don't believe in talent, what else is there that does matter to you? To become a professional it's hard work for many decades. Without musical talent you're out of luck anyways. Nothing is a secret. What do you want to learn? how to use a preamp? You're just trying to find excuses.

 

the cat in your profile pic is cute

 

Why are almost all tutorials for beginners?

Because "teachers" who try to teach us are beginners themselves?

 

I think maybe this explains most of the facts. Thank you. A short sentence but answers to many questions.

 

auto didact tho. Only saw tutorials for, say, compression, maybe clipping... trial and error be my bestie. Sorry for newspeak, time runs.

 

I'm in the Zappa school of composing: pick a frame for it (in music this is just the piece length), then make noise within that frame.

How you decide the frame and what kind of noise goes in it, is up to you. It really is that simple.

 

Nothing great can be developed without training. This is a fact, but unfortunately 99% of people resist this simple fact. Education is the foundation of making big things and even small. No one can do great things without training. I emphasize once again that it is not possible.
There are no comprehensive tutorials on the internet. You may be able to find one or two people with difficulty to do some projects for you, but these people will not guide you in all the stages of building big something and monitor your decisions moment by moment in the work process. Unless you are in the circle of friends and very familiar relatives of these people, or they are assigned by the government or companies to train a group.

 

Sure i can find it. Here 's one of many. To understand what's explained in there though, it's implied you have a thorough understanding of music, something i really really doubt lol.

 

This is an oxymoron by itself.

 

If you believe: 1. Talent doesn't exist. And 2. nothing great can be developed without training (I assume you mean created but hey ho). And 3. no one will ever teach you their secrets.... And 4. People will not guide you in all the stages of building something and simultaneously monitor your decisions moment by moment.....

If you believe all this, I have to ask, why are you here moaning on this forum? You're posting here will not change the truth as you see it. Maybe find a new outlet, like walking. No need for secret lessons from super special secret teachers to go for a nice long walk....

 

Most people delude themselves - they talk the talk, but can't walk the walk. It is obvious they lack the technical knowledge if you compare it to proper walking. But I still haven't found a comprehensive tutorial, only those covering baby steps.

 

@ULX