True even after 100 years

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  1. Smeghead

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    "You need to eat."
    "But what if while I'm eating my body undergoes some kind of transmutation and turns the food I'm eating into little bombs and I explode??"
    ".......:dunno:"
     
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  2. ULX

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    Everything is possible in the material world. You just have to find its way. That's why I opened this thread. When any change is possible at any moment, it is practically meaningless to talk about permanent stability and truthfulness.
    Reality itself is always in danger and can change.
     
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  3. lbnv

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    What 'possible' means? In our thoughts all is possible. But not all our fantasies become true, that is become real and material.

    When we talk "true", we mostly mean real and material. Our fantasies aren't true. We may pretend or think that they are true we may beleive in them but sooner or later we may understand that they aren't true.

    Very slippery topic.
     
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    You should be discussing this on a philosophy forum where you can get in depth analyses of the nature of truth and reality. On a music forum you can expect a knowledge base that is focused on music. And I suspect some of your views would be seen as quite simplistic to scholars of philosophy as can be illustrated by "Everything is possible in the material world" Which I previously stated as being an imagined universe that has no accepted baseline as a point of reference. In which case any scientifically proven statement may be dismissed by your standards.If indeed anything is possible, could it be discovered that the earth is flat and the oceans contained by an ice wall?
     
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  5. Smeghead

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    It's really not.
     
  6. Smeghead

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    No it can't.
     
  7. lbnv

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    The reality IS a change. Constant, infinite change. Things appear, things transform, things disappear. The Becoming.
     
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    Explode properly.

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  9. Smeghead

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    Change within reality is not the same as reality changing. What is real is real by definition. Yes, it's nitpicky but I take the sense of the original post to mean "what is real can become not real and vice versa"; i.e. you might wake up tomorrow and the laws of physics might change. It's just sophistry. Even things that appear to be magic when you first view them like quantum mechanics do in fact abide by rules even if we don't fully understand them.
     
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  10. lbnv

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    You were a child, now you are old. That child was real, and he isn't real now. You were born and one day you'll die. This is The Becoming. Change.

    About laws... Yes, in this case it is sophistry. They might change but they don't change. They are always the same. Our experience says us about it.
     
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  11. lbnv

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    Constant change is a law?
     
  12. hansolo

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    Even this will not change in 1000 Years...in my opinion;
    -Search for "Easyness" and for each other
    -Search for "Happiness" and for each other
    -Search for "Respect" and for each other
    ....as for a Compromiss for each other ...
    See it like a Chain of Three (The above ..easyness etc)
    without one of them "less" would Fail/Destroy one or more of that 3 Aspects of them in each other...in the System of "Sense of life"
    That 3 things are the Basic "Sense of Life" in my opinion..because it was Always like that..Up´s and Down´s...
    Ok...Others are which will not change too in 100 and more years:
    -Travelling (Planetary too)
    -Racism (Between Planetary Unions) so...
    a movement of Senses from the Local-(Earth Racism) to the Global (Universe Exo Planets Union Racism)
    as Earthlings we must be than in a Unite Flair :D

    - Search for Wisdoms to make a Movement in Wisenesses

    What will be Changed:
    We will get a Clue that "Star Trek was the next Bible" :D and "Gene Roddenberry" A Prophet from Hollywood... :D
    and that God Likes "Science Fiction/Space Operas" and Directed us to Travel (soon or Later we Must) ...and too ..to find other Kids for Him ...of Him :D

    - We will have a Clue that the Bigger Nature (Universe) have a Problem that counts all Planets: "The Black Hole"
    After the "Big Bang" there will be a "Big Bang" in the Far Future..
    And the Vinylplayer of God Which playing The Song "Big Bang" will Come to an End
    and will Start from the Beginning to Playing that Song again and again..
    Lyrics in it: "I need SPACE" "We need SPACE" :) .....and this Shit Black Hole...I Hate it ...again and again... :D ....
     
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  13. ZUK

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    "all is temporal"
     
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  15. ULX

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    It is a mental concept made from the power of death. Humans have created this mental concept because they have seen that they die or that the things they built are destroyed over time.
    If it is possible to stop the changes, it can be said that nothing will be mortal or temporal.
    The biggest problem in controlling changes is that humans cannot fully control them. The factors causing changes are very many and almost infinite, which makes it impossible to monitor each and every change.
    Between now and 100 years, almost infinite changes will happen in everything that are beyond the power of human control, and these changes will form the future and after that.
    Almost no one and nothing can stop the changes. All we can do is submit ourselves to the changes and see what happens to us. In these infinite variations, no foreseeable future is imagined.

    Unless an extraterrestrial being stops the changes and freezes everything.
     
  16. ULX

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    Almost everything I said so far is in your text.
    In the last 300 years, efforts have been made to identify and prove real, unchangeable or changeable things and events. But again, there is no guarantee that they will remain real.
     
  17. ULX

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    If it is possible to answer the question why changes happen in the world, many problems will be solved. Why do forces like to make changes?
    These forces exist in the universe forever and never disappear. This is what we have come up with so far. But if there is something like a timer inside the forces that leads to the destruction of the forces at a certain time, what will happen, will the universe not exist at all? Who has guaranteed that such a thing is not inside the forces?
     
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    what's up my man @ULX
    how you doing?
     
  19. lbnv

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    Does such a "timer" really exist in these forces? Do such forces exist? May be the world works differently, without "forces"?

    Let's talk about these forces when they will change. Let's talk about the world after this change when it will change. For now, such a discourse is pointless and meaningless. Just verbiage.
     
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    define the terms ...
    write longer posts ...
    be static...
    open hex editor ....
     
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