HI Everyone hope you are all well and having fun
I was going to try an experiment and see if listening to songs converted to 432 Hz sound better or make me feel better ,,,,, my question is if I use QuikQuak Pitchwheel and lower the song by 8 Hz ,,32 cents ,,,,
1 HZ equals 4 cents ,,will doing this accomplish what I want, or do I need to convert the entire song in
Audacity or some other DAW

Thank You, for your input ,help and Ideas

Korgrog

 

No offense, but why don't you just try and compare it?

 

No.
It's all bullshit.
It's all relative.
Just transpose your master down 32 cents if you believe in the "frequency of the universe" or the spaghetti monster.

Just remember that A424Hz sounds even more relaxed than A432. (D'oh!) Might as well just transpose everything down a semi-tone.

 

Thanks Guys ,,I was just wondering about it ,,,I have done it ,I am trying to make sure I am doing it the right way

 

This is a great video on the subject:

 

Don't mess with the Spaghetti monster, man!

 

A friend of mine is kind of abscessed with the healing powers of 432 and 528Hz...

Thank you @Majestic for the upload!

 

Last edited: Jul 24, 2024 at 12:39 AM

Its like somebody's reading my thoughts...

I just did a bit of investigation into 432 because it divides into the Schumann Frequency (7.83hz). There are 676512 cycles of the Schumann per day or full rotation of the planet, which divides by 432 to give 1566... I was trying to figure the relevance and why the Ancients might want to access that frequency.

Its also the frequency of the Queen's Chamber inside the Great Pyramid.

The ratio is 3.625 or 3&5/8ths if that has any relevance... I've been trying to understand the significance of those numbers. It seems familiar somehow.

Anyway, since 432 is in perfect harmony with the planet, you have to imagine that if you are talking healing or harmony then 440 would be out of sync, because it isn't divisible in complete cycles.

 

Don't do it. Did you ever read Tolkien's The Silmarillion? When the Ainur were all singing in 440hz creating the world, here came fucking Melkor with his 432Hz bullshit and look what happened. Do you want another war of the silmarils or another war of the ring?

 

It is not because it is in harmony or in sync with the planet! The Schumann frequency is not a constant! - not even 8.
It is just because it is a geometric sequence of 2.

J.S.Bach used A=415Hz ...

 

Last edited: Jul 24, 2024 at 2:38 AM

No, not a good idea because a lot of instrumernts can't tune to it.

The example given are always string instruments. Chaning the tuning in the way described, for string instruments, is basically requcing the string tension.

Lower string tension always sounds softer and more gentile.

If you built a custom trumpet and compaired it with a standard trumpet, you'd only hear the pitch shift.

These number ideas only came about because it make mathimatical calculations easier. So why's it needed?

Is a good song writted by your ears and heart or your head and a calculator?

1 Hz is a full cycle per second, seems logical and reasnable.

1 second, the time taken for a 1 metre long pendulum to perform a full swing in 1 direction. Why? Who picked this?
Why not there and back, a full cycle like 1 Hz? Why 1 metre and not 2? or a foot? a yard? a finger?

Why are you trying to get science involved in art?

What sounds good, is good.

So pitch shift if you feel the need for lower base frequencies.

 

That's the thing. The concept of "one second" is completely arbitrary. It's not baked into the fabric of the universe somehow.

 

A regular instrument tuned in 432hz won't sound right because:
The Scale Lenght of an instrument, and all its Dimensions, are adjusted to better match a certain resonant freq.

If the instrument is designed for 440hz, tuning it at 432hz will only screw the Intonation or tonal resonances..

 

Last edited: Jul 24, 2024 at 12:50 PM

i heard plenty of songs in 432 hz
i also don't have perfect pitch so i wont even notice the difference without an instrument tuned to 440hz

 

My own personal opinion regarding that matter... People (or science) say 432Hz makes the listeners feel good or whatever but you might have heard it before, good art suppose to be disturbing.

 

Nope... I did the sums last night by coincidence...

86400 seconds in a day
Schumann is 7.83 cycles per second - not a full cycle as you say
86400 x 7.83 = 676512 cycles of the Schumann per full rotation of the planet

676512 / 432 = 1566

So perfectly divisible

The ratio is 29 : 54

So 432cycles per second does run in sync with the planet ;)

440 does not divide, so its not in harmony

This is assuming the Schumann to be precisely 7.83 cycles and not just rounded up/down

 

You can do an experiment on your "more spiritual" friends, play them a track with normal tuning at 440, another with tuned at 448, tell them the 440 is at 432, and see which one they prefer. You can also do the test with both version at 440 for fun.

If you're into spiritual thing and stuff like that, you know that it's all about intention, so put your best intention into your 440hz track instead of starting to mess with your tuning, cause it's not always easy to really tune well a sound, especially with real instruments (or even some plugin), it's not about just pitching the master down (which is a thing that can be done for other reason btw, or pitching up to create exitement).

 

also, why refer to one frequency when music is a bunch of them stacked up?
do individual frequencies matter more than the relationships between them (music)?

what are the mechanics of 432 in relation to all the other notes? do you just lower all the other stuff off 8cents and poof you got it? i dont think so. i have seen people take Tool and other band songs, lower the whole clip pitch to "match 432Hz" then post them on Youtube. dis some bulshit if you ask me.

just another Dogma. but that doesnt mean its bad nessesarily. if you make good music, so be it.

 

Oh dear goddess, leave the poor Schumann resonances alone!

Yes, they're actual things, but they also fluctuate. Unless you tune your instruments to current lightning activity on Earth, giving it a static number means jack shit.

Also... they're electromagnetic resonances, so they affect the sounds of... analog synths, what what? If you want to consider actual physical constants then something like (average) ambient temperature makes much more sense for your tuning base.

 

SWIM (some one i met for those who dont know the old acronym) grew medicinal mushrooms. SWIM told me they tried an experiment where they grew two batches, in different rooms, one had 432hz music playing nonstop for the entire cycle from grain to spawn, the other had no music. Besides that they were the same grows, same agar sample, exact same ratio's, care, temperature etc. Well, the 432hz batch of mushrooms were wider, taller, more robust overall, as well as more plentiful. They were also more beatiful, a sight to behold, or so im told. SWIM's friends also said they had stronger medicinal effects than the non 432hz fruits.