A serious question

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  1. Will Kweks

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    Also Cakewalk has had a score editor for what... 30 years or so?
     
  2. Danie

    Danie Ultrasonic

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    I hope I did not convey my meaning wrongly. I don't mean different representations for notes. I mean working with notes. I repeated this sentence so much that my fingers don't want to type it anymore.
    It doesn't matter how you display the notes, the important thing is that you can work with the notes in front of you. Like a martial arts master whose martial moves have become a part of his being.
     
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  3. jynx

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    Can i read music

    NO

    Can i write any Genre

    Yes!!

    Does not being able to read music impact me in any way

    Absolutley Not!!

    That said "I Hear what your saying and do understand the premise"

    i may not Know the graphical representation of Notes

    But that does not impact my ability to write/program/Play live

    Yeah i can play a physical instrument

    A long time i was the keyboard player for a couple ahem i WILL USE THE PHRASE "Tribute Bands"

    So you see it really doesnt affect my ability
     
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  4. DarthFader

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    Most excellent advice, although less useful for drummers like me.
    But my salvation was discovered in an old haiku.

    Begin by beating
    Bottomless blackness beckons
    Brainfarted bullshit
     
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  5. Danie

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    I know you are a talented and capable person. All the members of this forum are talented and each of them has high abilities in different things and I don't want to question those abilities and my intention is to help and nothing else. The ability to work with notes is very important like other abilities. It has only one fundamental difference from the others. Non-note abilities mostly deal with feeling and inspiration, but note ability with momentary thinking. When the position of the notes is not respected, the power of the music producer in creating musical works decreases and the producer has to wait for something to be inspired on him so that he can develop it in different ways. Working with Note is like driving Formula One, where decisions must be made in as little time as possible, but other non-Note abilities are like driving normal cars with low speed. As the most important component of music, notes are different from other elements. They are so different that many people do not go to them. Because it requires much more thought. But other things in music are not like this.
    If someone is proficient in most parts of music production and not proficient in notes, it means that the person has deprived himself of the most powerful component of music.:bow:
     
  6. BaSsDuDe

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    I thought you had Notator (LOGIC) :( for a minute until I read the rest...
    I wish there was a better solution but if I had a MAC I'd be using Logic instead too. Notator was the best of its kind and its embedded in Logic and its amazing how many people don't know that..
     
  7. jynx

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    I Apologise if i came across harsh/Rude Perhaps

    "Im just outspoken"
    I do understand exactly what your trying to convey and we arent in dissagrement

    The Whole process for me is akin to Mathmatics

    "Not that im great with numbers, i just mean that i always find that without even realising it, im always essentially doing maths during sound design / sequencing /Various points during Programming"
     
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    haha i was sure that you didnt get what i meant.
    yeah something like that would be awesome, simply because its just a different way of thinking, then using a piano roll.

    The way you wrote it, i thought REAPER had something like that, got excited ...

    well :(
     
  9. Will Kweks

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    Seriously, for music notation up to Black Page #2 you can go for Cakewalk by Bandlab for free, can't hurt to try.

    I don't need to write score for a full orchestra (because I couldn't fucking write music for a full orchestra anyway), but little bits, smaller arrangements, for people to play I can print proper notation out of Cakewalk. It's no toy.
     
  10. BaSsDuDe

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    I am truly not a 'my thingee is better than your thingee' kind of person. We're all different and like different workflows, and truly, Reaper is a great DAW as are the other mainstays. They all end up having the same features so I still reckon you should stay excited and write to their support. When enough people ask they all end up adding it :)
     
  11. ToadMonster

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    I think there are many more ways to go about making music.. The classical way is to write notes / sheets. - But I think that many people have a more technical approach to making music.. Can we call it "Modular Composing?".. It's all about trying/testing out new things, combining, modelling/re-modelling, and building things instantly.. - I think it is much easier for people in todays music making, to just work intuitively, and there are probably too many limitations to composing the classical way, unless you are making classical scores for movies?
     
  12. Danie

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  13. BaSsDuDe

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    You do realise this how every person who has seen you here as FOSTER views you? As a person who has no idea how notes work. You have justified NOTHING and everyone here who knows anything about music, knows that.
    I will make the suggestion more kindly.
    QUIT WHILE YOU ARE BEHIND FOSTER.
     
  14. Xupito

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    Hard pass, thx. Next
    Stop hoping. Not working
    Like co-workers, that I understand. Who the fuck is Notes, BTW?
    Wise fingers, do what they want. On a side note, my fingers are crossed
     
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  15. eXACT_Beats_

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    I think that emoji pretty much sums up how most feel about the convoluted OP.
    Least good conversation has come of it though. :yes:
    Incidentally, am I the only one who's used "Foster" in the (mad) real world, forgetting that it's a term exclusive to AudioSex? :unsure:

    My mind immediately went to Evil Dead and Ash's severed and possessed hand. :rofl:

    evil_8.gif
     
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  16. Smeghead

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    I don't work with notes. I work with vibrations in a given medium (usually air) at specific frequencies, sometimes alone but often combined together to produce more complex vibrations and frequencies. These pitched "sounds" (as I call them) can either be directly interpreted by the central nervous system or plotted on some kind of graph.
     
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    wow nonsense in a form of a picture ... go home you are maybe drunk?
     
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  18. Danie

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    I tried my best (or not best) to make people aware of this as much as possible. Everyone likes to think and everyone doesn't want, does as he/she sees fit. But know that this was the last chance. No one will be found to talk about it. I'm tired, no matter how much I explain, no one listens.
    Anyway, I don't feel like continuing anymore.:yawn:
     
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  20. Smeghead

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    4 But Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own country, among his own relatives, and in his own house.” 5 Now He could do no mighty work there, except that He laid His hands on a few sick people and healed them. 6 And He marveled because of their unbelief. Then He went about the villages in a circuit, teaching.
     
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