Stuck in low ratio on AudioNews

Discussion in 'Internet for Musician' started by Drewz_, May 25, 2024.

  1. ArticStorm

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    super fast downloads, very rare audio releases - if not for download you can request them.
     
  2. bluerover

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    You're right. I've had an account for about 10 years now, ~5 yrs ago they changed something to where your upload speed from a PC/laptop, seeding 24hrs/day, 100s of files, gains you almost nothing. Definitely not a MAC/PC difference. It could be that users using seedboxes get 1st upload priority somehow. When I use PAT the upload speed is normal, AS the upload speed is in the KBs for past 5-6 years. :-/ I've used most of the private trackers since the early 2000s (Audiofarm, etc..), but AS is the first time that I've experienced an 'upload bottleneck'. grrr...

    Edit : Sorry, I meant AudioNews (AN), not AudioScene (AS)
     
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  3. Garamondo Furbish

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    my theory is all torrent sites are actually run by a consortium of Toshiba,Seagate,Western Digital, and various other hard drive manufacturers to sell more hard drives.. prove me wrong...
     
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  4. saccamano

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    RUTracker is clean enough, and they aren't trying to sell warez for $$$. Seeding there helps the community and it IS a community there - one of the best the scene has to offer IMO... Unless you're very well connected there's no way a new AN account can keep up with the ratio b.s. they currently enforce. Eventually, even if you're seeding 24/7/365, you'll fall behind BY DESIGN, and either end up having to pay, or just let it sit and spin. There more seeders than DL'ers on AN which doesn't make for a balanced environment except for the older well connected accounts. Plus, they have changed ratio parameters since the initial accounts were created back in the day making it harder to impossible to maintain ratio even when seeding.

    Diligence proves out to be advantageous for those who are willing to put in the time to find anything they want WITHOUT succumbing to the rat bastard assholes who attempt to sell scene releases to unsuspecting noobs. Unfortunately the supply of noobs willing to pay for warez (or the access thereof) these days seems to outweigh the numbers of those sticking to the credo of the scene, and ram it to those who attempt to profit from it.
     
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  5. horst

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    people could try to download huge releases elsewhere and then downloand that torrent from AN and simply seed it,
    without wasting their ration.

    it doesn't have to be audiosoft, samplelibs or such. AN also has other releases.

    another tipp: check the requests, maybe you can get your hands on some of the requested torrents and upload/seed them.
     
  6. horst

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    so you're saying AN is one of those moron sites, trying to make profit from warez???
    are you for fucking real????

    you're prolly also one of those calling discord servers sellers, just because it got boosted? :DDD
     
  7. Legotron

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    I've been there for like 20 years or so, before they changed their servers and later combining gfxnews to it.
    It is actually easy to get good ratio, but like I many people get blinded by the amount of releases and start hording.
    It is a bit waiting for first time, but any new huge release with good download/upload speeds will get you far away..
     
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  8. saccamano

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    That's the way it should work, yes. However, I have seeded top releases there for days with next to zero accumulation of ratio. You can see on the torrent app there is activity that should be sending bits to clients but they quickly turn to 0 after little more than a second - over and over again. It's a scam at this point. Maybe at one time it wasn't but now it certainly is. They have something shady going on with that tracker that is unlike regular trackers.
     
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    "Moron" site? Your words not mine. Wtf knows if they actually profit or not. In fact, I said nothing directly about AN "profiting" if you would have bothered to actually read the text. BUT they are eventually selling warez (or the access thereof) whether you like it or not. There are a LOT of individuals and sites that ARE directly profiting from the scene which is what I was referring to.

    As far as "discord servers" go - discord is one giant circus of snakes not worth one lick of my attention. that's all...
     
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  10. ItsFine

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    I was thinking that way ... until i lost all my ratio from ppl using terabits seeboxes and ruining it forever.
    When i started, seedbox was not an option.
    So i kept seeding when my computer was running.

    Nowadays, if you want to MAINTAIN or get initial ratio ... you need seedbox or at least NAS 24/24.
     
  11. horst

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    yea but naw .. i guess they have the ViP opions rather for maintaining their servers instead of making profit from warez.
    even if torrent is p2p, the website and all the database stuff isn't. what if they'd call it 'donation', would you still think they'd make profit from warez?

    the stuff i have seeding are running/uploading from time to time. that's also because if i have the app running, it'll run for days.
    but well, i've also "released" stuff there, like, uploaded torrents.

    new AN users should do some searching for stuff which ISN'T there, yet, make a proper torrent and upload it. that way they should gain some ratio.

    i've seen several new users trying to gain ratio by uploading stuff, which are dupes though. just do some research and upload or research and check which torrents are still "hot" and keep ya pc running for some days.

    like "ItsFine" mentioned, seedboxes ruined it, sort of.
     
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    Yes, I have attempted to release a few things there as well - it would be great way to get your ratio up. However, the scammy nature of the way that site operates, your lowered ratio will simply prevent that from occurring.

    The final point here is there are plenty of other just as clean and fast avenues to take to get to a final result rather that subject one's self to the kind of malarkey going on at AN and other similar sites.
     
  13. Barncore

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    Same experience here. For a second you'll see the upload speed of something show "1kb/sec", then instantly goes back to 0kb/sec again, where it stays for most of the time. It's as if it sees you and goes "nup".

    I don't think i'd go as far as to call it a scam though. I think that's going a bit far. I suspect it's more a matter of the supply/demand dynamics being out of whack, rather than it being intentionally set up to funnel users into paying. I could definitely but wrong though. Either way, personally i'm glad it exists, and i'll continue using it for as long as it's available.

    It's, what, $20-100 per year depending on what plan you buy? The cost of 1 or 2 plugins, to have access to all things digital related to audio and graphics. Most of all: there's never any DCMA takedowns (afaik) cos it's a private community, and there's never any problems with something not having enough seeders. Everything is always available to download, even the old stuff from a decade ago (which is probably partly why it's so hard to up your ratio, because their seeding is self-sufficient already, there's no way to compete). Downloads are as fast as your internet can handle. It's safe, never had a virus downloading from there in my 7-9 yrs of being a member.

    ^ In order to have all that, of course there's gonna be operational costs. Nothing is free. Are they tricking us into buying ratio? Maybe, maybe not, i don't know. Are they being honest about ratio being actually achievable organically? There's no way to know. But regardless, there's no denying it's a good deal for any hobbyist musician/engineer. Netflix alone is more expensive.

    If only plugin devs could get some of that money though. That's why if you're a full-time pro though then you've gotta go legit. Support the devs that support the industry. But you all know that.
    I've actually had the opposite experience. The only stuff in my list that ever gets any actual seed action is the old stuff that nobody else is online to seed. Things like, old video courses from 5+ years ago, sample libraries from 5+ years ago. The old stuff that either ppl have forgotten about or just was never that popular, but it's a 1GB+ file and i haven't got much competition for seeding it, lol. In those cases i might be able to seed 100mb, 300mb, numbers like that. But it's rare, and in no way reliable.
    Lets be honest, no cracker is looking at that requests page lol
     
  14. clone

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    you guys complaining probably just never updated your torrent client so that the tracker is forced to use https. Like almost all sites were mandated to do. The problem is in the chair.
     
  15. Legotron

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    1 Day 22gb uploaded with 150/100M. Qbittorrent with all the basics disabled.. I think it's good and fast enough
     
  16. clone

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    My wifi is fast enough. :rofl:
     
  17. winningQQ

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    So if this were to be true, the electric bill is the current current currencies one needs to have, to be paid, so stating the obvious that Thanos was right, is just another neighbour walking in her Tight jeans, neglecting the fact that Zack was the shit, not Cloud, poser. logics.

    Ontopic tho; AN user since early 2010 and in my book a really active one aswell, but tbh, even I somehow noticed some years ago that, suddenly, my seeding was just none. Actually noticable not avoiable at all. I made some digging, tests, jerking off, w/e you want to believe idc, still, nowadays, I consider it a fact that their seeding system is in someway prob monitored, but controlled and manipulated in a way not being displayed to users. Its like duh, you guys actually think someone on the internet would not take their chance if they could to earn money? It's not like RuT is AN, RuT is RuT, and AN is greedy cuz smarter then me and spending time onb öblablablabl
     
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    a greek philosopher, I think it was Plato, once said, "if you are in a poker game and you don't know who the sucker is, its probably you."
     
  19. genophyte

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    downside to ru is good luck finding splice anything :rofl:
     
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    Any invites over "Proaudiotorrent"??
     
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