I remember some time ago opening a thread asking for this type of complex room emulation software. You can't get the same results with Valhalla or other types of normal reverbs If you aim for a cohesive "in the same space" sound for all your vst. It's is expensive, but I think it's not aimed for the regular home studio producer.

I think the secret sauce for mixing orchestal and electronic music is to record the synths in the same room as the ensemble, and to try to emulate that "in the box" a tool of this sort is imho totally worth it.

here is Ludwig Göransson proving my point on 12:10 XD

 

Post your thoughts about it later, even if you hate it. I haven't tried it yet (only watched a walkthrough video), but I liked how it sounded.

Checking the manual, it says you need to authorize inside the (terrible) Spitfire Audio app before unlocking the dedicated plugin. Unless a group bypass the online check requirements, I guess it won't be cracked. It seems to be built exactly like their libraries, and that should already say a lot about when we should see it on the sister site (never, I guess).

 

Altiverb 8 XL new license is $900. An M7 is $4700. There is obviously a market for these kinds of expensive reverb products. That market is just not me.

Fabfilter Pro-R will load IR's and so does Logic Space Designer. Altiverb 7 is still awesome like 10+ years after it's release. I think this $400 Spitfire reverb will be more useful to many people than another $400 Spitfire Kontakt orchestral library. Many prices now are not even relative to quality. It's like they set the prices using dice.

 

It won't register. The installer is wonky and the plugin won't take the trial serial that came with it. I've contacted them and I hope that they get back to me soon.

I wonder if throwing a good tape emulation on after a reverb would get that sound in the neighborhood of their plugin. I've never thought to do that before.

 

Couldnt you just use any reverb, have no reverb on the source strings, maybe room mic open, and then group the strings / synths, and apply the reverb to the group?

Also worth checking out, Theatre of Life for nebula, its a free library, and allows you to move around the room. UAD sound city studios is an interesting one too. Its worth checking out, you can place different elements in different part of the room using multiple instances of the plugin

 

That's exactly what I thought when I first listened to it. I'm planning on trying Pro-R 2 + some kind of tape emulation. I like Softube's tape, but I think it might be way too soft for the desired effect. If it turns out good I think I'll leave some samples for comparison here.

 

i do this often, and use a variety of tape plugins for it. One of the coolest things ive found, is sketch cassette after reverb. make it super lofi, by choosing the lo quality cassette and add some wow and flutter too!

 

Don't hold your breath.

 

This is the entire problem with modern society. Expecting everything for free and not valuing anything.

Where do you think developers get income from to invest in R&D and developing software? Do you think all that is free? Developers and researchers work without a salary for the love of it? It's not that if nobody buys it the price will drop, it's that if nobody buys it there will be no companies to develop anything for anyone as they don't (and shouldn't) cover this from their own pocket as a good will gesture for those who expect everything for free.

Everyone should always support the developers they like and purchase the tools they regularly use. Not doing so is just free-loading and expecting everyone else to fund you getting everything for free, which is not viable or sustainable.

Read every releaser's .nfo or equivalent, and they will all echo this and tell you to buy the tools that you to help stimulate the industry instead of free-loading!

 

Yes.
https://plugins4free.com/effects/

 

So how many of these are industry standard, hobby projects, peripheral freebies to tease people into a brand to buy the better/proper plugins, and so on? Klanghelm, Mercuriall, Apisonic Labs, Blue Cat Audio, Audio Damage, and so on are examples that came up in your link, so portraying them as developers doing things for free is inaccurate and misleading. Even the Analog Obsession ones that came up and are 'free' is only 'free' because the guy is funding it all via Patreon subs, and were previously only exclusively availble to Patreon subs.

Referring to a plugin manufacturer making numerous plugins, of which are industry standard/quality, and that all of their products are truly free as that is their business model (so excluding those funded via Patreon etc too) and not just a token one or two or stripped down 'lite' versions, and you would have more of a legitimate point

 

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I dont know what the characteristics of an industry standard product shall be in this context other then marketing, but all of them (also the ones that are not from a company) work really fine. More often then not even better then the pricy ones.

Yes, there are companies making free product as well. If their marketing is giving products for free without anything else, I am fine with it.
I know that there are a lot of people for who it is not, because their fallacy is, that a product is only good if it costs (a lot of) money.
That's odd.

 

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You're missing the point. If a company makes 100 plugins and give 1 limited functionality version away for free, even if it works perfectly for your need, the R&D and dev work for that plugin is covered by the income from the people paying for the 'full' version of it and/or from the income made from the other 100 plugins. People have to pay to invest in a developer, be it through direct charge for other products, subscription to Patreon, advertising, sponsors.....there are many means. However, consumers en masse can't just take the approach of "we will pay for nothing and get everything for free forever" as that's clearly not realistic, viable, or sustainable, as there are very few, if any, serious plugin developers developing quality products that are truly free wholesale for everything they produce as their time has to be paid for by someone somewhere (in the vast majority of cases).

The point I was making is people should support developers and buy products they use rather than just expect everything for free, as that's not how life works.....plus, its just common sense and common decency.

 

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Yeah, that's fine.
However I just do not see that the most simple but most effective tools in audio industry are that complicated to make that they need this hassle. And one can clearly see, that everything one needs is already for free from people just doing it as their hobby.

Additionally most companies where people think "need to get paid" mostly are either charlatans or just do not know what they are talking about on a technical audio level - one can decide for one of them. The evidence is stated in the description of their offered products. And therefore I am in disbelieve that any useful research for the consumer is coming from them.

 

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The Laws of the Market are simple : Whatever not sell , the price drops . If you cant understand the obvious i cant help you . Its a matter of IQ . If you want to buy a plugin with a hardware price to support the developers then its again a matter of IQ and cant continue our conversation . The problem is people like you that keep the prices high when we all can get it for free . This called a Paradox . Vst Companies never thought that in a Piracy World , people, instead of pressure the companies to drop the prices by using the cracked ones , will go and buy them whatever the price is . Humanity is more stupid than they thought . Go buy them , ill have them for free . I dont talk for companies with logical prices . The modern society is completely retarted , sorry im Old School .......

 

The law of supply and demand in a capitalistic paradigm, yada, yada....OK, so nobody buys any software plugins or instruments, developers of these software bring in zero cash so instead now start designing vacuums and negligee. Vsts become no longer compatible with any modern operating systems in a few years and AI tops the Billboard charts from #1 to 100 because there aren't any more humans that can compose any longer ever since wood and oscillators have become endangered species...and it's ALL your fault.

 

so as i can see you didnt understand anything from what i have written and you do think that you are smart to write a paragraph of sarcastic non sense . Bravo .

 

Seldom seen such nonsens writte. I have a strong feeling it must be a result of a lack of IQ!!