The minute I read the word 'high end audiophile', I knew it was shit.

 

Audiophiles will never do this, because they don't need to. They know they can hear it.

But you can't argue with them because they will always find some way to explain technical things that are more complex than any developer can understand, like all this memory loading bullshit. At the end the DAC receives the bit identical data and converts it depending on it's clocking signal, everything else is irrelevant.

 

He doesn't just sell them; he designs and manufactures them. I merely pointed out that such a person should have a lot of knowledge about audio and is not likely prone to creating 'snake oil'.

 

Seems like one-moment flashes might prevail over any deeper considerations.

 

Honest suggestion, and I 100% mean no offense; given your post history here, take some time and consider the possibility that you are suffering from some form of mental illness that you might want to get treatment for. Again, I mean no offense. You're increasingly into ideas that virtually all mentally healthy people would consider crazy.

 

I just saw you tried to run it via Crossover on a Mac. That would make the whole file system thing even more senseless.

On the other hand, it would have been great if you were able to hear a significant difference also on macOS, not only on Windows.

 

pratyahara, no, you didn't hear any change in sound. Trust me. YOU DIDN'T. Somebody fooled you. Some Audio-Uri-Geller.

I don't believe that. Facepalm.

OTOH ... look at those brainless with these red hats ...

 

I can't run an ABX test on a large enough dataset with a sufficiently large sample size and proper controls, and you know it. For that, you need an institution. This forum is mostly composed of amateurs and enthusiasts, and this was supposed to be just an inquiry. You can find the strictness that you so ultimately require on some scientific site.

 

I didn't create this software, just as I didn't create Mr. Yokota's software. These are their concepts, ideas, realizations and explanations. Over the last decade, hundreds of people on various forums have attested that they can hear a difference and use this software regularly. If I do the same, is it sick? Are all those people crazy, according to you? If so, it's much greater extremism on your side.

 

Crossover doesn't like Net framework, so the actual tests I did were on real Windows 11 system, and I did not manipulate/move files anywhere to maintain everything as is

 

and you failed to provide any information on how to conduct any inquiry to discuss further

 

Yes.

 

You can start with testing with yourself, foobar2000 has a handy ABX plugin w/online uploads and verification. Then get a couple of more interested.

If the results are encouraging, then you might be able to get even more and start getting a feedback loop.

 

I wouldn't call it crazy, it's human behaviour, billions of people believe in things they can't prove. And even if you can explain physically that something is not possible, they still wouldn't accept that.

Same goes for "audiophiles", they believe they can hear a difference and so they actually do, that's part of our mind. And that's why blind ABX tests exist. (And why audiophiles don't trust them.)

In non blind tests, many people hear a clear difference depending on the gear they are looking at or what some other experienced people tell them, independent of the source itself. Just knowing (or believing) that the finest expensive amps and DACs are in use, our mind easily can be tricked to feel better and "hear" a difference, even if the signal is identical.

And that's ok, they feel better and enjoy their music more, and the whole high end audio market exists because of that experience.

 

That one is easy. Foobar and it's ABX plugin mess up the audio data stream from memory, so the optimization is lost and you will hear no difference. Also it is impossible to upload an "optimzed" file, because the upload is bit identical, but again, the "way that the data is stored" by this magical application is lost.

And now tell me that that is no nonsense.

 

Yes, I know... .

I mean I'm sure we're bypassing all of the caches and memory and reading the optimized bits by hand somehow. Since the order does matter! Or something.

Funnily enough, FB2K does something utterly magical that improves the playback a shitton, all without affecting the file contents, really. It's called ReplayGain and it's a godsend for those of us with a large collection.

 

But applying ReplayGain is like listening to digital music on copper cables. It drains all the moistness out of the waves, leaving the analog all shrivelled up. If you want to preserve some semblance of authenticity and roundness in the low end, gain must only be applied in powers of two.

It's obvious.

 

I did: 1. install, 2. load a file, 3. process it, 4. listen and compare. Post the result. Except for you and maybe a couple of others, unfortunately most of the people discussing here were either over-educated, too smart, or too lazy to do that.
There's nothing to discuss, either you hear the difference or you don't.
Also, this is not about comparing files, but about comparing the live audio outputs. It just needs ears. 90% of the people here did not understand this.

 

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Thanks. So funny. Love stuff like this.

I'm selling magnetic shielding for SSDs that makes everything playing from it sound at least 12.3% better. Anyone interested? Only $199.95.

$189.95 for AS members. Money back not guaranteed cos I might move to Cayman Islands soon.

Sorry, couldn't help myself... it is actually sad to see what kinda abstract things people would believe. Incredible. Amazing. No wonder religions are still going strong.

 

I'm sure the developer of this "2 minute timer copy app" just wanted to do it as an april fools joke and then realised some people were taking it serious. And now he's laughing about discussions like this.