Finally, I was able to clone a guitar solo

Discussion in 'how to make "that" sound' started by Ryck, Feb 18, 2024.

  1. Ryck

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    Hello, everyone. Well, I've been searching for a long time for samples of unamplified electric guitar, specifically DI (Direct Input). However, I couldn't find them anywhere, and virtual instruments lack the naturalness to clone it. Today, I found a gem on the sister site of Image Sounds, where they have DI samples of electric guitar. I took around 250mb of samples and put them to clone in Colab, only 100 epochs because it took a long time, given the large number of samples. I thought I would get something less than expected, but the result is quite decent for only 100 epochs. I believe that if I train it more, like 300 or 500 epochs, I could achieve better results.

    Now, you might be wondering, "Why clone a guitar solo if you play the guitar?" Well, sometimes you may not have a good guitar (as in my case), or you might want to emulate another guitar model, perhaps play a Stratocaster and make it sound like a Les Paul. In fact, there are VST plugins that attempt to emulate this, even mimicking the pickups of the guitar. However, in my opinion, it's not comparable. And we know that a VST can't achieve this with as much flexibility.

    I wanted to share this with you to see if you like it and hear your opinions.
     

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  3. MFShreddage

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    Great:guitarhero:, I was thinking to do something like that, How about feed the trainer more resource (bigger database, more than 1000 samples).

    wish you could explain what exactly you did (things, tools, etc.)
     
  4. Ryck

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    Of course, if you want, and if others are interested, we can create a database on some hosting platform like Mega or Mediafire and contribute to it. Or, I don't know, I've already uploaded that package of solos; if you need it, I can share it with you. I used a Colab that is anti-ban as it trains the model without gradients. Now, I'll leave the link. I'm not sure how familiar you are with this, but basically, it involves loading samples into Colab, specifying the path for those samples, having previously downloaded a zip file containing everything needed to train the model, and then installing the dependencies. It's quite intuitive. Once you reach the desired epochs, you save everything together if you want to continue training or just save the model.

    https://github.com/ardha27/AI-Song-Cover-RVC
     
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    Thanks you very much
    Honestly, I am not very familiar with cloning and things like that, but if possible I would like to start learning from the basics and maybe make my own cloning or generative tool (found some good tutorials about it) . more than cloning I'm interested in generative tools (image, sound,...).
    I am interested in participating in this type of works, I'm in.
     
  6. Ryck

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    Well, I learned almost everything by watching and another part by trying and helping myself with ChatGPT. When I need a code, I ask the chat for it; I don't know anything about programming. But I get involved and learn. Regarding photos and videos, I've seen amazing things, especially in photos. I saw a tutorial the other day that recommended 5 websites, and I was amazed at how a website using AI could give definition to a blurry image and even amplify it. On GitHub, you can find several photo and video projects. Honestly, I'm not familiar with that because it's not my field, but it's interestin
    Regarding voice or instrument cloning, take a look at the Colab I sent you; it's quite intuitive. It's divided into two steps to avoid getting banned. It's not that your account gets banned, but it gets closed and set to zero. So, first, you download the entire cloning project, which contains the training models. After that, you save it to Drive and open the second Colab where you start training. Why? What happens there? In the first Colab, when you download the repository, Colab already detects that you're cloning. Once you have it in your Drive, it doesn't detect it anymore unless you use certain keywords in the functions when calling a function. But this Colab is designed for that. Cheers!
     
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    I can’t think of anything goofier than an AI guitar solo. Man we’re really headed somewhere bad.
     
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    this is the reason i have one strat and one les paul
     
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    Thank you dear Ryck for explanation, I'm going to use the AI trainer (github link) that you sent and maybe I can train some weird interesting models that I like.
    that's a good idea to Use chatgpt for coding or correcting coding mistakes.
    Many Thanks for information
    Regards
     
  10. Ryck

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    I don't think you're using your imagination or creativity... It's not just about the guitar solo itself; in my case, I overlay it or extract some harmonics with Melodyne to strengthen my tracks, and they really sound better to my ear. On the other hand, you have a Les Paul, great, others don't have it, but I also gave an example; it could be another guitar model or an acoustic turned electric or vice versa, or another instrument, or taking a violin sample and turning it into a guitar solo. I think you need to be more creative; you've limited yourself to just thinking about an AI guitar solo. I suppose you're not familiar with cloning; it's an endless array of combinations you can get. Do you think it's the end? I don't think so. Like everything in life, there's the tool, and then you give it utility
     
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    Every solo EVH ever played after Fair Warning or so was just AI that had been trained by those 1st albums. He just began to synthesize himself. It happens to a lot of players...
     
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    I'd be very interested! I've been trying to write guitar solos with Ample Sound, but it just doesn't sound so natural. Maybe getting my parts to be cloned with your package could be the game changer! I just have to learn how to do this cloning thing.
     
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    I didn't say anything about having a Les Paul? Unless your reply was meant for us both. But I hear you. You're right. I don't know why I just viscerally hate certain things about AI. Like hearing an AI guitar solo on a song from a musician I admire would really bum me out. It just feels wrong.

    I can get behind using AI when you're stuck on a part or need a bit of inspiration. Inspiration can come from anywhere. But when music is more machine than human it loses something.

    Anyway your post wasn't even meant to be yet another debate about AI. So I apologize for ranting. I just hope you guys that use this get creative with it.
     
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    What Happened here? :dunno:Why did Ryck disappear?:woot:
     
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