Do you really need to know if you have Autism?

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  1. Margaret

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    Maybe for justification for laziness. And doing everything except work? :dunno:

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  2. Ichos

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    I agree with you. Autism is basically a different way a brain evolves unlike what is common or generally ascribed to majority.
    Unlike other disorders there is no pathological variations in brain to be treated and hence it is not considered an illness per se.
     
  3. Grupletruge

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    You may have misread my comment, thats what im saying rude people will come and say, is that im diseased.

    I dont think autism is inherently a disability, but as a neurotype, there are disabilities that autistic people are more likely to have.

    Its worth considering that some people DO have the disabilities you have, and hold power, but they are a minority group. Many autistics have contributed MUCH to society.

    As far as the "social model" im not sure what exact thing you are referring to.
     
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    You're only taking the far left side of the autistic spectrum into account. Remember that having an epileptic seizure because the bird you saw yesterday flew in a different pattern today is also on the spectrum.
     
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  5. Grupletruge

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    Fucking stupid comment. I hope something bad happens to you and you think of me when its happening.
    Whatever bad thing happens to you next, please just think of me as it happens.
     
  6. Grupletruge

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    Far left?

    Autism is not epilepsy....? Just because autism can and often does co-occur with other neuro-pathology (like epilepsy) doesn't mean it carries the same (provable, measurable, proved, measured) physical traits...

    If you just meant seizure, not epileptic, thats generally not whats happening either, seizures are very different from Tics and Stims, they are involuntary physical responses as opposed to involuntary psychological/emotional responses.
     
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    Aye, that's two neurodivergents talking.
     
  8. MFShreddage

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    I did one of those tests and the answer was this : you experience many typical signs of autism, Borderline indication.
    And my answer is this : So what, That's who i am and I don't fucking care to those shits.
     
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  9. Margaret

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    Why you think this comment is stupid? Why you reacting angry on it?
    Why you angry on me? And why you wishing me bad things?
    I told the truth and I was using my thinking as example. When I can't do something and I feel bad I am looking for justification of it.
    I am wasting my time and do everything except what I supposed to do.
    Other people have similar. They can't do something and they blame everything and looking for problem like disorders test online.
    In many cases the fault is in them but they blame everything and everyone that it is out of their control.
    This is in human nature. When something bad happens we always blame everything and everyone except themselfs.
    And this is exactly what I writed.
    The question was Why people wasting time on making disorders test online and other things except just work.
    And I writed Maybe for justification for laziness. And doing everything except work?
     
  10. Ichos

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    I understand what you are trying to convey...

    I agree with @Grupletruge that Autism though a disability in certain circumstances is not an illness unlike others. Unfortunately sometimes psychiatric/neurological disorders coexist and this hampers diagnosis many a times
     
  11. Olymoon

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    why not concentrate on what you need to work on rather than knowing if u're autistic?
    Best sentence of your post.
    Exactly, so why not concentrate on what you need to work on rather than posting this?
     
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    Fuck.
     
  13. Grupletruge

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    Well, a lot of people aren't nearly as shit as you are, and they dont use it to excuse poor behavior, and it helps them for totally different reasons. Sorry that you have such a profound psychological bias towards assuming everyone is just as bad as you are.

    That said, I feel pretty confident that you know you are actively insulting those who use these tools on the path to diagnosis, and this is just a bunch of word salad to help you feel justified in doing that. If you aren't aware, thats worse, and you might benefit from an autism diagnosis XD XD XD XD

    If you think people should just be working 16 hours a day and ignoring their mental health and overall wellbeing, perhaps you should stop wasting your time typing out stupid fucking comments, and get back to WORK! Nonsense fkn statement from someone wasting so much of their time to say literally nothing.
     
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    You beat me by a few seconds! hahahahaha, absolute gold, Marge over here is procrastinating AF XD XD XD
     
  15. Margaret

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    Grupletruge. Man. I don't understant you. You dislike my posts and talk negatively about them.
    But you liked Olymoon post.
    And I was saying exactly the same thing as him.
     
  16. Margaret

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    From where do you know what my work is? What my purpose is?
    My work is to study human reactions and behavior.
    I am scientist and as a hobby I making music.
    And right now I am exactly doing what I supposed to do.
     
  17. Grupletruge

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    An inability to understand irony or sarcasm is a part of the criteria for an autism diagnosis.

    If you're a scientist look into the science, it'll tell you you're acting like a dick.

    Separately, based on your behavior, i jsut wanna tell you its well known that individuals in STEM have Autism at disproportionate levels to the rest of society.

    Perhaps your inability to understand how rude you are being, or even ask the right question to sus that out, has to do with an actual social disability, and a simple test might help lead you you to the tools to stop making these uncomfortable performative social gaffs in such public places :guru:
     
  18. Grupletruge

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    Marge let me make this clear because i'm only half-joking.

    You seem KINDA AUTISTIC.

    Every autist i ever met who didn't like their diagnosis, or didnt yet have one, acts exactly like you do, some of them are even in stem, and an interest in the Social Sciences often stems from an autistic inability to parse them in the way neurotypical individuals do, so you love the idea of compiling huge amounts of data to find the most scientific answer possible. Its a hyper-extension of a mechanism known as manual empathy.

    As a behavioural researcher (or whatever your role, i know its a wide field of study) you should know better than this, this is embarrassing. Get better.
     
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    How many really creative musicians aren't on the spectrum somewhere?
     
  20. Grupletruge

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    There are def a disproportionate of neurodivergent people in the arts overall, but i dont think its always autism, if thats what you mean by spectrum.

    Pre-script: Not saying this to call anyone out i just love sharing this information!

    If you aren't aware, the spectrum framework for understanding autism is somewhat flawed, thought it can help people understand the basics. It omits some nuance that can be easily filled in by calling it a "Continuum". A spectrum only contains 2 points and this framework assumes that the main variability in autism is "Intensity" whereas it is really a multi-polar neurotype where your place on the continuum would be defined by multiple variables, like "intensity of X trait", with x being, for a few distinct examples, oversensitivity/aversion to: visuals/touch/taste/smell/sound.

    What confuses many is the way these overlap and feed into eachother, autistics often might have seemingly mutually exclusive traits like both Aversion to loud noises, and "sensory-seeking behaviors" related to loud noise, with the main variable being control, they cannot tolerate a loud dog that wont stop, but LOVE LOVE LOVE cranking their speakers to 11 for an hour of DnB/Black Metal/Hyperpop.

    TLDR; autism is a large list of traits that co-occur, overlap, and intermesh, requiring frankly more detail than even 3 dimensions provide, let alone the 2 dimensions of a spectrum!

    Sidenote: I also think lots of people who are a part of other neurodivergent continuums (schizo disorders are one example of a developing continuum that was formerly considered a spectrum, the medical obsession with dimorphism has a lot to do with a lot of very old pseudoscience as well as spiritual and social ideas that have all since been proven false, or otherwise abandoned), totally separate from autism, are often musicians and artists. Sometimes they may have autism too, but i know many non-autistics who are schizo-something, borderline, or have PTSD which can frankly manifest similarly to Autism at times, etc.
     
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