Yes, but not limited to that but:
"Free speech" is a thing of the past.
Anyone who expresses an opinion today will get punished. Unless it is the opinion of the punisching person.

Look at facebook, X and the other anti-social media.
You can have an opinion but keep it for yourself.
A few - sometimes just one - decide. Dissenting voices are undesirable

The "rules" of so called "communities" get more and more repressive. Instead of being a community they get little kingdoms where a small group defines what is allowed or not.
So KVR is no community at all. The rulers they see it as their private domain where they can act as they want. And in extremo they are not even bound to their own rules. Therefore no justification for a ban.

In a real community, the people behind KVR would quickly lose their subjects because those would build their own community.

Lessons learnt from KVR:

• If it is important to you: shut up!
• Or conversely: make sure that it is not important to you anymore.

 

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speak for yourself

 

That still is an option even today and it happens every day. The issue always is that most people want to do whatever they want but find it very difficult to function when other do the same to them.

If you build it though, I promise to come and behave in a manner so free and uninhibited that all horses will become unicorns and sprout wings and all rabbits on the planet will spontaneously only poo skittles and smarties from that day on. Miracles will abound and freedom will reign supreme once more.

It is easier to imagine moving a mountain than to actually get one to step aside politely, but if no one ever dares to ask the question we will never know.

 

Sometimes it becomes obvious that I am not a native speaker, sorry.
I meant it more in the sense that if KVR could not ever be so sure that people would compete with them one day later under a different URL, KVR would behave differently.
On one hand members complain on the other hand they do not take action.
And members are usually not aware of their true power. Because most of the content does not come from KVR anymore but from the members. Its sheer power.

But its the same with e.g. whatsapp. They can do (misbehave) what they want, but members are too layzy to switch platform. Again: Sheer power, not used.

Yep. A lot of things would really be easier if everyone made an effort to be as polite to others as they would like to be treated themselves.

 

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Usually KVR bans are for something borderline, if not, libelous, like accusing VPS of stealing samples.

 

No forum has 100% "freedom of speech", except on darknet sites......
I got warned by kvr for posting link to something to help a user out...but never banned. If you explain to mods im sure you get account back.
Talking warez on kvr is not allowed.
I have a hard time thinking that you can get banned for saying you dont like a product. Is that true?

Freedom of speech is only applicible if government run a forum site.
We (from democratic countries) absolutely have freedom of speech today. Just look at all the lies and conspiracy theorists everywhere.
Democratic governments cant ban you from saying things as long as you are not saying to other ppl to use violence etc.
You can start your own forum or social media and have your own rules. Government cant take it down as long as it is not braking any laws.

You can go outside and spread messages. That is freedom of speech. You CANT post anything you want on any forum or social media...

Also.. if you say stupid things, other ppl will dislike you and might not even be doing business with you. That has nothing to do with freedom of speech though.

 

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Actually, there are limits to freedom of expression. This is what the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (United Nations) says:

Freedom of speech and expression, may not be recognized as being absolute, and common limitations or boundaries to freedom of speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, hate speech, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, food labeling, non-disclosure agreements, the right to privacy, dignity, the right to be forgotten, public security, and perjury

With the evolution of the digital age, application of freedom of speech becomes more controversial as new means of communication and restrictions arise, for example, the Golden Shield Project, an initiative by Chinese government's Ministry of Public Security that filters potentially unfavourable data from foreign countries.

More info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech

 

I got banned from Reddit subreddits three times in two days - and two of those times, I was banned from Reddit itself (just re-registered with new e-mail addresses). The one that didn't result in banning from Reddit gave the reason that I had posted "racist spam," when it was neither. Both bannings from Reddit itself were due to the mods' histrionically escalating my contesting being banned from the subreddits, to the point where they couldn't admit that they were in the wrong, so they fabricated some "politically correct" reason as to why I were a bad person and fukt me out of my Reddit accounts, such that I had no access to any posts that I'd made to them.

I got locked out of three Instagram accounts in about a month during 2020 because I was posting photos of surgical masks lying discarded on public property. The last one had no photos of masks, but there was in the Bio a URL to a web gallery of masks. Each time, the reason for being locked out of my accounts was "threat to public health and safety."

Twitter/X has zapped me a few times by bots' reading certain words and taking them the wrong way, especially idiomatic speech. I commented on some politician's self-incriminating statements with the phrase "shooting yourself in the foot," which translated to the bot as "threat of violence. I had to explain to Twitter than it was a figure of speech, and I got my account back. Another time, I made a typographic error in spelling the word "like" with the letter "k" at the beginning, and my post received "reduced visibility" because of "hate speech."

Three years ago, IG changed its ToS to where, by using the platform, you were consenting to IG/FB/MetaZuck's scanning the entire contents of the device from which you were logged-in, among other egregious terms, so I banned IG from my life. As though being thrice banned as such hadn't turned me off to it enough.

 

no, same username since 2007.

 

What is funny is when ppl contributing to forums, really involved, are banned for being ... too involved.
ALL forums, one day or another, end up being empty spaces full of non contributors and harmless speak.

So harmless they become simply useless.
Like a knife being so "smoothed out" it become a spatula.

Most forums are NOW dying rapidly due to their global censorship.
We can only speak about the weather and products features.

And frankly ... i don't care about this.
Already loosing too much time not hurting snowflakes in real life.

So go internet !
Be more harmless, like a spatula !

"Community" of washed out brains ? ... not for me
Call it "political" "hate" speak ... whatever ... i don't care.

 

I was traumatized by a spatula.

Well, maybe I was traumatized by my mother, but she used a spatula.

 

Actually, there are several people like yourself on this forum where English is not their native language, who are more articulate than some people who spent their lives in an English speaking environment.

When you you cut to the simplest point, it is about being understood, not about whether someone can write in a manner that is 'proper' English. You can be understood easily.

 

Without any judgement whatsoever, Political Correctness(P.C) has contributed to the discombobulation of many people understanding what is the right thing to say, or sometimes do. One of earliest identifiers was in Film. The terms "Actor" and "Actress", were never spawned to be discriminating or derogatory. They were simple gender identifiers. Now they're all simply actors without any identification. They have to be in a way this century (e.g. LGBTQ) - Try freedom of speech in a group of P.C lobbyists if you are not in 100% agreement. They make any forum moderation look like freedom of speech.

 

Nah. It doesn't help. What you are paroting is a right wing talking point when it seems to halfway fit. KVR is a private enterprise, so: their house, their rules. What doesn't mean that they are always right, but the right is always on their side. Legally. "Free Speech" rules for public speech, but not on a private forum.

So I find it always difficult if someone spews out such an uneducated bullsh*t like you did to fire with halfwisdoms the people up. That is exactly what in the end leads to fascism. Either you are not that intelligent or you think - that is a correct assumption of you - that the people reading your post are dumb or both. In either case such a propaganda move is very, very dangerous. As can be seen every day again and again on the news.

So be aware what you are talking about and how you talk about things. Make sure you understand the underlying situation. Which is objective achievable. Means: Before using the term "free speech" read up how that is defined. Don't believe that you are the one who knows. Dangerous.

:-(((

 

its nothing new. got banned on dc++ in the early 2000s. for sharing some tangerine dream mp3s. if you are familiar with the band you,ll know there are no lyrics, plain instrumental. still, titles like valhalla triggered a mod,s fashist-sensitive nerve, and he was not educated enough to apreciate an argument of nordic mythology vs. nazi crap. i could have unshared the folder, but decided to leave and find something better. it was good while it lasted...

 

Freedom of speech has always been and illusion, and always has been. Sure these things are not simple, lines drawn in sand and all that.

The so called "free speech absolutist" Elon Musk banned the account that posted his private plane flight plans/landings. This is public fucking data. So there you go.

 

Exactly.
But it is even more fun to get "freedom of speech" lessons from ppl spending their time using MORAL "argument" ... witch is not an argument.
And without any moral behavior in their real life.

And we know who those ppl are.

 

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Make a new account no need to panic , fuck em ..... as for the freedom of speech if everyone said a big fuck off to all Social Bullshits and closed their accounts ,,,,,, the next day the freedom of speech would have been back again . . . . When i canceled Gayflix ehhh sorry Wokeflix eeehhhhh again sorry Netflix because of the NWO Trashy Agenda they promote ( propaganda with our money .... ) they sent me an email to be back again with half money ....... i said to them even if you pay me i wouldnt register again . If everyone have done the same , the Agenda would be over !!!!

 

Happened to me....I just made another account. easy
Its funny these people are talking about "Free Speech" and forget that there are CONSEQUENCES to "Free Speech". Got to LOVE it!

 

I don't use kvr, because I prefer going direct to a Products Homepage and forums for any info.