It's the best analogy I saw from long
And the analysis is remarkable, it makes me want to compare legit and r2r Ivory suite when I have a moment

 

Don't witching me...
There's nothing interesting about me, I'm just invalid :"(

(my biocomputer have a bug, need firmware update. need help...)
I can communicate with electronics directly, but I have little experience, my computer says that I have created a digital copy of myself.

 

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From Ibiza EDM to the Billbord. That's a great move

 

ASH has its own character, so if you want that particular sound you can use it. If you do not need to have such a character, use any other device that will not turn your PC into a melting furnace.

 

I asked someone I have enormous respect for with their Audio Engineering skills and out of respect I will not name them. Basically, as much as I think Snow is a decent emulation of an RND Portico, he tested them at an analysis level I cannot.
His consensus was that Acustica Audio is cheating at a very high level. That makes this thread and their product almost moot for me.
Simply because it is now making sense with the bugs, fixes and everything else because if they were not cheating, there would be very little to fix. LATERZ.........

 

All this should be redone from the very beginning, leaving only the previous analog interface.

My opinion is that in 2023, algorithms and calculations will handle all this, you just need to leave their proprietary harmonic engine and dynamic convolution for their reverberation.

(this would really change the whole game, and also reduce CPU consumption by up to 60-80%)

Do you think the same as me?!

 

Thats interesting, what do you think your engineer friend meant by 'cheating at a very high level' ?

 

this thread is being flood by trolls and out of topic stuff, Stevie needs help

 

Special note for "smarty" patatorn:

By algorithmic technology I meant “imitation” technology with AI. In which processing of incoming audio and calculation of frequency characteristics occurs in parallel, which significantly reduces the CPU load.

This was not trolling or a joke...

 

Would there be a way to take the impulse responses outside of ash and use them in a normal IR loader?

 

you can try to copy the frequency response with any matcher.
But don't try to take the impulse with a click - it will turn out badly

 

Without showing anything that would name them out of respect as follows...

 

Your friend says everything absolutely true!
But unfortunately, he does not know how this technology based on dynamic impulses works. There cannot be minimal noise here - since there is no noise generation like, for example, in the "Hornet Tape" plugin. But you may see frequency range noise in some AA plugins.

 

Thanks. Do you have a handle on what he means by 'crack at certain frequencies'? I've had a look at many of the Pre's in PD and they seem to be consistent over the frequency range. I don't doubt your friends tests - just a little more information so that I can look into it would be very useful. Cheers

 

1) what does crack at certain frequencies means ? did he used a correct sample rate to begin with. I'll take a proof or else will just assume he didnt use correct sample rate. If it means when pushed hard beyond the internal working gain range it wouldn't be flat anymore under the analyzer... maybe he's not a proper engineer to begin with if he doesn't aware what's happening.

2) most AA plugins the harmonics will only shows when you have the "PRE" on, that's how it is. It's almost impossible to "capture" compressors natural harmonic "artifacts". Kinda need to code it accordingly after and that's how it is done for... 1 million compressor plugins out there, AA too. AA tied the compression artifact ie. harmonic generation to the "PRE" button as with all their compressor plugins. I believe he didn't enable the PRE. Even good engineer sometimes make mistakes.

3) noise floor is removed which is a good thing IMO. 90% of the people in the audio community hates Waves analog emulation plugin for it and how it is tied to the harmonics generation of the plugin, PA plugins has a knob to push it down further. I don't see this as a flaw but a welcomed ITB modification for me personally I don't need a single piece of that noise floor whatsover and I doubt people that knows what it could do when stacked will hate the absence of the noise floor. But still, AA plugin has noise floor, and it can be seen under the usual Hammerstein test in PD. It's not static either, plus the harmonics aren't static too. Kinda need to enable the PRE

The HarmonicAnalysis page in PD is tested with static sine wave, the Hammerstein is tested with a sine sweep. Sweeping test tones with different result every sweep, while static test tone will give static result unless the plugin is just using a "*.wav" noise floor like most of the plugin out there. Anyway, it's weird that your engineer friend loves noise floor, as anyone that ever worked with analogue piece hate that shit to death.

looks like harmonic merged with the noise floor to me for IVORYCOMP



here example for the lovely noise floor with a *.wav file used in Noiseash RuleTec




4) cant speak about Magenta just yet, as R2R haven't release it.

 

I this list correct ? The unreleased. Did I miss anything ?



Added to the main thread, but get all the manuals here :

- released by R2R
- unreleased

 

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I'm confused. Isn't this the dithering noise that is visible in the PD? I thought we were talking about audible noise....
As far as I know, the noise of analog devices is dominated by 50-60Hz and it is not at all similar to this noise

 

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that's the electrical hum no ? depends on where you are at the world. 120v (US) or 240v (BS)

 

i was trying to formulate a reply to that weird screen shot, but you did it perfectly lol.