If transients are hitting your master bus limiter too hard, thus preventing you from achieving a desirable loudness without a noticable pumping effect, softclip the transients first. That's pretty much it for me.

 

Thank you all! Now I know something about clipping!

 

Yeah, me too!


Ahhh...can you tell me again what that something is?

 

In this scenario, some people will let it clip the most "offensive" transients, and then put a Transient Shaper on after the clipper to get some of them back, or print it with just the clipper, bypass it, and then add Transient Shaper only to it. Sometimes I do not like the results I am getting with the clipper, I will give up on the idea and replace it with Sonnox Inflator or something to that effect. Saturation and Limiting.

 

To put it in simple layman's terms:

clipping makes audio go BOOM BOOM, loud loud, hot hot.

 

seeing @Djord Emer i remember once I asked about this overly clipped track which clipping is used as a "creative fx" that during my first listen in my studio I went panic mode for few seconds thinking there's something wrong with my speakers and monitoring system. It's a frightening experience playing this song at high SPL.

the song is doing fine, clocking 200mil streams on Spotify alone

 

Force me and choke me 'till I pass out

 

it was hot when Jennie did it, but Weeknd had to ruin it and sing that line too

 

See, in general this is where I seem to be gravitating towards to- dangerously (or undangerously) close to team anti-clipper lol. Especially for "organic" (live recorded/band) material. I think my mixes have suffered from too much clipping/saturation.

On the other hand, again it's all about taste, and what genre you're working on... You wouldn't want to take this approach for something like this

Wait until 0:47 :D

 

My English is failing me, what is the difference between the two options you mention?

So you clip the transients, then shape them back with a shaper?

 

I saw superstar producers doing clip, transient shaper (boost transient), clip, expander + EQ, clip. That's like common practice for them. I think Luca Pretolesi do this all the time and squeeze out 6db out of nowhere in one of the mymixlab video. It's still on the sister's site I believe. The end result doesnt really sound distorted or too much clip artifact but considering it ended up at -4LUFS with dynamic range of 3, it's safe to say it sounds like shite. haha.

 

Damn, thats a lot of pumping and squeezing. Gotta try that! Trim the fat.

 

haha yes!!! i love lil texas. Clipping as a creative choice is great for hardstyle, neuro bass, dubstep, house etc

 

do you know the name of the tutorial? would love to see this. I love clipping, over clipping, destroying mixes etc lol

 

If my English is somehow problematic, I'm not going to type some additional long post. When I used the term "some people", I meant it. So here you go, I found some you can argue with it about: https://gearspace.com/board/music-computers/1397593-clipper-plugins-utilization-strategies.html

There is also a little section in the Jaycen Joshua/Dave Pensado MWTM video about destroying every transient in a waveform and still not getting the loudness you want from the quieter portions of a waveform without resorting to compression. But I think that was when he busted out Wavesfactory Spectre and I stopped watching it.

 

Someone has probably mentioned it before, but if your pads are distorting, chances are you are using hard clipping, which is not always suitable. If (for some odd reason) you insist on hardclipping your final mix, you can also use automation to ensure that at least on the drumless section of your track there will be no clipping applied.

Personally I think that a softer transfer curve (close to hardclipping, but with some knee) is preferable to hardclipping in most instances. Oxford Inflator is basically a clipper with a soft logarithmic curve, where the material at the ceiling is not immediately obliterated, but softly rounded-off.

 

I forgot, I don't know for sure. I think it's "Mastering Louder". apologies if I got it wrong. try asking a guy name Jim Von Gucci at the sister's site. He probably know

 

Thank you for this info. I have Kazrog K-Clip 3 because I figured I'd try clippers from the sister site. Are you familiar with that one by chance?

https://kazrog.com/collections/frontpage/products/kclip-3

 

No I meant MY English haha. To me these options sound the same:

And:

Both have the clipper and then shaper, right?

Thanks for the topic link, very interesting thread

 

not op, but i have K clip and its great! you will want to adjust the "soften" knob for something like a pad, you can also try multiband clipping. Its often beneficial to cycle through the different flavors / types of clipping algos, some work better than others on different material.