What you say?

 

Lulu works quite fine. IMHO.

 

I've used Hand Off on my old mavericks music computer, It's been working OK but sometimes it has crashed...also it never warns when something is trying to connect. You have to block the app before it tries to connect after install, manually.

Been using Lulu on my other non-music computer and I find it's OK but it's a bit messy... lot's of popups in the beginning. And the rules created seem to just be put in a messy chronological list. I can't seem to find how to block all outgoing for a certain app for example.

I've never used Little Snitch.... Could someone who has used both Little snitch and Lulu explain what makes it better/worse?

 

Little Snitch has a better-looking GUI.

 

It's been awhile since I used it, LuLu works fine for the most part but is missing some 'refinement' and extras that Little Snitch has. From what I can remember, when it comes to blocking/allowing a host, Lulu was more of an 'all or none' kind of deal, where Little Snitch was a bit more flexible and customizable. I don't remember LuLu having the Network Monitor like Little Snitch either, which comes in handy now and then.

Awhile back, I think it may have been Catalina or Big Sur, Little Snitch broke thanks to Apple so I started using LuLu in the meantime. Didn't last very long though as he put out a beta that switched over to the new Network Extension and I upgraded to 5.0 and went back. Lulu was good (and it's free too), but I do remember dearly missing the options Little Snitch had while I was using it.

Keep in mind, this was a couple years ago now, and LuLu may have come a long way since then.

 

Little Snith + Gas Mask = better combo
Lulu is ok but lesser feature

 

best is to use terminal

for example what you add

Code:

127.0.0.1 www..google.com

control + x (save it)

 

Thanks y'all! I think I'm going with LS.

 

LuLu is lighter. Little Snitch is way more robust. Either will block Outbound traffic just fine for blocking "Home Calling". I have seen only one plugin that was able to bypass a LuLu rule.

Hosts editing is not a "complete solution" either. Some plugins use "fake" domains which are not their real websites to collect data. I always use the one example I recently (year or two) of a developer using a house painting business website for this kind of traffic.

So it really depends on the machine and what you really are "defending" by installing either one of them.

 

just came accross this post post searching info on objective etc little notch asking permission to access Lulu for code singing apps little snitch has allowed under agreements (behind users backs) aka back doors...I contacted them asking why little snitch allows certain ports Apple was criticised about collecting and sharing info without users permition as well as why little snitch is the last app to start after rebooting and they gas lighted me suggesting its as normal..meanwhile it is the very reason people paid for their app,

 

Yeah, I'm about ready to make a big OS jump (lol, Sierra to Catalina or beyond and still trying to figure out which is the best path or one of least resistance.... and I have read the same about Little Snitch, and that is disappointing... So looking at Lulu for new system myself...(

 

LuLu is great. You can use it to create rules for blocking .component, .vst,.vst3. The Apple System Firewall is ok, but it only lets you block applications. So I use them both. That stuff about Little Snitch is nothing but conspiracy theory of the usual ilk.

LuLu stays out of your way more. Maybe uses less resources, I haven't compared them. And then you can always add domains to your hosts file.

 

Little Snitch is super.

 

No complaints here after like 3 or 4 years of using Little Snitch..

 

I mean they both perform the same function. Not much difference in resource usage either. I used Lulu for like a year and then switched to little snitch. used It ever since. I prefer littlesnitch tho. Not much difference in performance of either program

 

LS has fancier GUI and I think more detailed control (correct me if I'm wrong) being able to block individual sites/ports of a given process, not only entire application

 

Ive been there using these tools. Until I realized i was being paranoid and spending time in unproductive pointless stuff imho. Because it was not only that but also hoarding vsts fx etc, i stopped that too, bought the basic i needed and nowadays just use very few fixed* items most for evaluation.

Anyhow, im genuinely curious, what is the point really.

if you are not distributing warez or operating some other legitimately sensitive activities, nobody cares about singular individuals making their music, mostly as a hobby and i have the feeling that most people using these solutions tend to be regular folks.

Are you afraid of being coughs for some reason or are you afraid of being hacked. Ive used computers for decades and done so much weird stuff, clicked and opened scripts cracks and installed so much crap and tested all sorts of things and never ever has anything really dramatic happened, some years ago i got one virus, reinstalled, fixed, other than that nada. Cheers

 

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Yeah, I have used little snitch since at least 2012 or most likely earlier... I just heard there were some issues, not sure if they are consequential, just doing a fairly large update with another system (keeping my old system on ice as has so much legacy material etc), and was going to venture into (whoa, joining what , 2020? Catalina or perhaps one above) and just wanted to start first with locking things down and being secure before installs... and have read fdifferent things between Lulu and LS, and wasn't sure which way to go, or even if latest LS was available at sister site and working etc....


appreciate your insight, and thanks to the rest...

 

Not even that. Outgoing traffic can't be blocked by Apple's firewall and host files aren't app specific.

 

That's how I remember it as well. When Little Snitch first had some issues with the new Apple security at version 4 and Catalina/Big Sur, I went with Lulu for a bit until he got that new network extension stuff sorted out. Lulu was more like an 'all or nothing' type of block, where Little Snitch lets you block the URLs/domains for specific apps and processes. I can't remember what it was I was trying to block at the time, but whatever popped up the notice, the block worked across the entire Mac. It wasn't just shutting out that particular app or process, it set that address as blocked period. I think that may have been the Adobe CS stuff, and I couldn't even go to Adobe's website in Safari after that unless I turned off the block in Lulu first.