I don't like electronic music, so i made my own

Discussion in 'Our Music' started by kraftfoder, Nov 3, 2023.

  1. kraftfoder

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    Cool, i'll check that out!
     
  2. genophyte

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    little scale is what it reminded me of a bit actually
    oh and
     
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  3. DEGRAD

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    You're frittering away your time on pointless experimentations. Nothing fruitful would come out of this mindset. Most of our likes put us in the paths with full of fallacies. False moves for several decades without knowing that thoughts and decisions are wrong and unwise. So sorry...:winker:
     
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  4. Trurl

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    Bye, DEGRAD.
     
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  5. clone

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    I would have noticed this, had I read the long text included with the tracks. I would skip all that, personally. Many musicians think a track needs to be explained to the listener otherwise they won't understand some aspect of it. That is almost never a good sign, pre-listen. You would get more "real" replies about the tracks by just putting them out there.
     
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    I love the artwork.
    All I can think of for genre is Head Up Your own Arse. Don't tell me why your music is great. That shows an ignorance. Music is subjective. I would call this Ego Synth - Where you find a sound you like and make it overpower the entire track making everything else sound like a backing track. It reminds me of music you get on keygens. it lacks dynamics and motifs to keep me engaged. There's no hook which is where loops can help instead of being lambasted. Subtlety can go further than 4 melodies thrust in to my ear holes.
    You have nice shoes.

    BTW I may have given a slight exaggerated opinion, but I got a VLDL sketch stuck in my head. Sorry.
     
  7. aschnt

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    Hey mate !
    You might not know anything about music theory or whatever, who cares, neither do many of us, but you definitely have the ears.
    Musically speaking, I find it amazing ! That's a proper album you made there. There is soul in each one of your tracks.
    I might not be so fond of the synths used either, but the way you used them makes up for everything.
    Thanks a lot for sharing. And please continue !
    The electronic genre is extremely vast indeed. I can assure you there are shoes for your feets in there. Don't hide, they'll show.

    And, on another note to react on your edit if I may, roll with the punches. They're there for a reason and it's not to hurt you. Believe me, people will almost always misunderstand you. Right, can be painful, but it is what it is. Go with your flow. To a certain point, they'll understand. Don't fear the blooming. Go with it, it's part of your life ! :)
     
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    Some human tendencies are natural and by default common to all humans but some are unusual. I don't say unnatural, because the presence of abnormal tendencies has the right to live. But the problem here is that these unusual desires have a short life or do not have many demands. Insisting on these abnormal tendencies causes social isolation and ultimately loneliness, which harms the individual himself. For example, why should a person who has the power of thinking worship Satan who is a symbol of stupidity, selfishness and harming people? Only for the reason that I like...:rofl:
     
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    Not sure to understand the full extent of what you're trying to say. "Don't feed the troll", I can't help but feel you're being somehow honest.

    "abnormal tendencies" like what? Right, everything has a right to exist. May it be an emotion, a trait of character or a tendency, it is the child of past actions or causes. And every child has the right to live, doesn't mean they should be left astray. Living is learning, the child must grow and become a bit better everyday. I've got my fair share of tendencies as well, I would actually consider myself as the perfect embodiment of imperfection, doesn't mean I should let all my tendencies run amok or suppress them completely. It's best to integrate, accept, to then work on them and improve as a being.
    And it goes along with what you're saying, that it causes isolation, loneliness etc. If you feel bad while alone, you're in bad company and need to improve yourself. That's the whole point of this seemingly forced isolation/loneliness. To put you in front of yourself. Better understand yourself and, maybe, the role you have within society? It only hurts when you don't do anything for it, because once the process has started, there is no going back, you can only either wait or walk forward. See "the dark night of the soul" if needed.

    Why should someone worship Satan? Why should someone worship it's counterpart either? I mean, yes, everyone prefers so called "good" things to happen to them so that why. But bad & good are subjective notions that change with time and perspective. And they never last either. So why worship a side rather than realizing they're part of the same body, they're best buddies, siameses. They both need the other one to exist because together, they're motion.
    I'd understand if we were still 2000y ago, but today... People should have the tools to see the greater picture I think.

    Let's celebrate this gigantic sandbox we're in, with all the possibilities and subjective beauty it offers us without discrimination of the strange or the abnormal, which is a pure reflex of your flesh because of its billion years evolution, not your thinking, but rather understanding and maybe, help with a bit of guidance sometimes when your guts tell you to.
    Ultimately, the only things that ever matters are within, not without. That's all a pretty trick.

    "Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we may as well dance"! Deeply love this quote. Give a shot at dancing, it's fun bro. And roll the punches too, they're not here to hurt you either, so no need to try returning the pain .

    Anyway, that's all completely off topic. So I'd suggest we leave it at that, and if you don't want to, use pm instead maybe.
     
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    I dont have to like it to know it's good.
     
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    I don't like other people's cooked food so I went to the groceries store and made my own cooked food with the ingredients I do like.
     
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    As one would, presumably.
     
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    keywords ; balance, within
    Again, if you want to elaborate, pm :)
     
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    ... and saw that it didn't taste good and in the end I had to use the same common recipes that have already been tested and approved by many other people.:winker:
     
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    Brother Metalist. If you wrote to us it's certainly because you would have also wanted honest feedback I guess, right? Well, this is mine: I have never heard such well-crafted compositions as these, played, however, by really horrible sounds. In my opinion they should exclusively be played by real instruments, although, with a lot of work you might be able to emulate the sounds of real instruments through the use of samplers with decent libraries. That's all.
     
  17. tnc

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    You know music indeed. Really well composed. I could not do what you do. You have talent, and an open mind.

    You're a great musician (or at least knows a lot of music theory). But the "electronic" synths/sounds you are using are, to honest, are shitty imo. There's very few modulations going on audio/sound/synth patches. You need to use the instruments/sounds themself to create build-ups, tension, breaks, breakdowns, etc. Using modulations of things to create a more complex audio image/picture that fits the music itself. That would take your music to a unique level (...unique is really rare).

    The sounds you use sounds like some basic default MIDI and Basic Synthesis 101. It has really good music inside, but the instruments/sounds are mostly bad. I would want want more power to your synths/instruments and to your whole production. Ie take the listener on a trip/movie, not only musically by the chords and melodies. More things has to happen in the audio realm, not only in the musical realm. I feel like the tracks I heard need more contrast and "bridges" between sections, not musically but mixing/production wise.

    Anyways. Take a listen to Infected Mushroom (100's of tracks, some really good, some really boring). It's mostly 4/4, BUT the production is probably one of the best in the world. They use a lot of melodies and chords so it should some what in your "area" of liking. Listen to how they treat the synths. Listen to how they treat their instrumentations. There are nuances, complexity, surprises, tricks etc.

    Your music is good enough to be really successful among fans of both electronica and power metal, if you focus on the sound design, production and mixing for a while. I know most musicians does not care about sound design, but those who do will create hugely successful things..

    PS.
    I also grew up on "power metal" (Iron Maiden, Helloween, etc) but I'm into electronic music when producing. I'm not a musician, can barely play the piano. I program most of my stuff by ear, which takes forever...... so kudos!
     
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    Don't worry, even it was not your intent, I can say that EMD is full of throwaway compositions built on throwaway bling-bling devices where launching audio loops is called "live".
    Sequencer doesn't mean basic loops. You can create very complex and interesting layers with true live generated sound.
     
  19. Make a genre because you love it and want to contribute. Love shines through all the best music.

    You made an interesting confused mess. That's a great start but it's an outsiders foggy interpretation.

    For most of us, dance music's magic became clear when we took drugs like Mushrooms/LSD/Mdma/Grass and spent a few hours just listening and maybe dancing. In these states, the best (not EDM) dance production will open your musical mind forever and lets you understand why certain sounds and ideas work. Literally, a switch turns on in your head.

    I've watched dismissive metal heads become passionate ravers with just one night getting high exploring good quality dance music. I can't tell you how many times I've head something like...

    'OMG! I understand now. Why didn't I do this earlier?!'

    Until your mind grasps the fundamental power of the genre, you wont 'get it'.
     
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  20. Deuterium

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    Great, so you dont appreciate music and its theory that much then obviously. Thats cool, when i was a kid i thought power rangers were amazing for a while too

    I see you dont want to talk to people who aren't amused by your output when they dont see any proof of musical knowledge, in fact you tend to prove you dont know really anything about theory or different genres.

    this is typical for metal heads, also typical for them to appreciate chiptune

    Woops i might have struck a nerve somewhere in the eggshell mind, and that puts a huge smile on my face
     
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