Why waste you time producing music

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  1. Ichos

    Ichos Producer

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    Machines doesn't create just perform fast. That's the way they are built and they function intrinsically and mathematically now and forever. The universe itself governs mathematically...

    BTW Faster are not necessarily better.

    So People don't need to be loose heart....
     
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  2. daddytang

    daddytang Producer

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    Wow...Looks like I triggered your fantasy...I hope a therapist can help you.
     
  3. Crinklebumps

    Crinklebumps Audiosexual

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    It's ironic that if I decide to publish my music to the internet my only audience may be AI training bots. Is AI just human intelligence (HI) repackaged?
     
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  4. peterA

    peterA Platinum Record

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    Because I thought it might be of interest.....and the title was sarcasm. I thought this was a music forum and this relates to how music creation is developing. Sorry if you don't understand or are you trying (and failing) to be a smart arse?
     
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  5. saccamano

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    If human monkeys were actually intelligent and proclaiming themselves to be the smartest species on the earth, then why are they destroying the very place they inhabit?
     
  6. boingy99

    boingy99 Kapellmeister

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    Loving all the Zappa references in this thread. It takes me back to when I was much younger but just as immature as I am now. :wink:
     
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  7. Lois Lane

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    No, your avatar is my fantasy...now where are my amphetamines and damn guitar!?

    I can use about an hour on The Tower of Power!
     
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  8. Trurl

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    As long as you gets a little golden shower?
     
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  9. Crinklebumps

    Crinklebumps Audiosexual

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    I have no problem with humans destroying their habitat, or even if humans blow up the entire planet. Whatever humans do is entirely natural because we are of nature, it would be just nature destroying itself.
     
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  10. Lois Lane

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    That's cool, but I do have a big problem with you not quoting Frank Zappa...like...since because of your avatar...

    Evelyn a modified dog,
    Viewed the quivering fringe of a special doily
    Draped across the piano, with some surprise
     
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  11. ArticStorm

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    Spend time with gear, create things for myself and relax and sometimes escape from daily life for a few hours.

    Something no AI could give me.
     
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  12. Triphammer

    Triphammer Producer

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    The white zone is for loading and unloading only.
     
  13. lbnv

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    But AI trained bots will write reviews on your music in New Musical Express (for example). :yes:
     
  14. lbnv

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    Agree. But from my side it was sort of a paradox.

    I'm sure that motivation behind composing music and producing AI for this is more or less same. Yes, money, but not only it. It's a challenge, it's a way to express oneself, way to use one's knowledge, way to be acknowleged etc.

    People behind such systems are composers who found a way to automate their job. No surprise when they rob other composers.

    The main problem of such production is lack of inspiration. This music cannot be inspirational. But sometimes people don't need music, all they really need is "music-alike environmental noise".

    EDIT: The transfer of music making in PCs was inspirational. DAW, plugins, all this stuff. It crated jobs, gave people hobby etc. AI systems aren't inspirational in any way.
     
  15. eXACT_Beats_

    eXACT_Beats_ Audiosexual

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    To avoid writing an essay on the possibility of AI being the ironic herald of some sort of international Socialist movement, a committee/organization of some sort to help off-set the lessening demand of human creators and laborers, a topic that many have been writing about for years with little attention given to them (a topic that even Dan Worrall has mentioned litely, in passing,) or writing an essay on the difference between musicians, creators and producers (leaving recording/mixing/mastering engineers out of the conversation entirely,) as it always seems to be overlooked that the three are vastly different, at least when put into a strictly business sense, I'm just going to address a couple random things briefly and then duck out the side door.

    You're obviously new to this. Step 1: Hydrate. Step 2: Epsom salt. (injured muscles) Steps 3-58 all deal with mental recovery exercises, then it's back to it. Trust me though, soon this "between time" will become unnecessary. With a little practice, your releases load faster and use less memory than the original.

    dl65875 statement remains undisputed, as all Moogerfooger did was cite death twice and drop a reference to catching an anonymous STD as possible consequences of enjoyable actions... which does nothing to directly argue that these things, in fact, are a "waste of time." At best, the argument becomes about subjective weighing of consequences and actions. Summarized? Continue on with your hedonism (and I'll support you, as long as you know what you are doing and what it means.)

    First Zappa reference of the day gets a nod. :shalom:

    Agreed. If you note, Moogerfooger never even mentioned the purity of the cocaine. Sad.

    I can't get on board with your general optimism regarding the people who haunt audio forums.

    You had me up until you used "arse." I cannot and will not condone softening of curse words, even if they end up as such due merely to vernacular stylings, as it's counterintuitive to their purpose. If you doubt their loss of grandeur, I can vouch for the fact that telling a cop to "Fudge off!!" will not get you the same response as telling them the same in the proper fashion. :no:

    *Internet-monitoring AI swiftly writing down what it will take to please ArticStorm for future leverage*


    I'll see myself out, thanks. :shalom:
     
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  16. nism

    nism Ultrasonic

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    no regrets!
    AI most probably will kill just-for-money music makers
    People who really loves it will survive (and AI will help them)
     
  17. saccamano

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    Thanks Ike, yes it's wet t-shirt time again... here at the "brazzerie" home of "the tits"... HUH HUH..
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    ...and it's the charming "Mary" from Canoga Park up next in her bid for the semi finals...
    Hi Mary how ya doin?
    HI !!
    Where ya from?
    Uh, the BUS
     
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  18. daddytang

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    The beauty of this thread is that it turned into a Zappa freakout. To this day "Bobby Brown" is the only song that I know all the words to.
     
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  19. The Dude

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    It was a good time...girls used to throw their bra and panties on the stage...:bleh:
    I guess his reasons (to produce music) were to make good music and have lots, lots of fun!
    Nowadays I feel some are just looking for fame, self-promotion and showing off to the world.



    I bought some too!:dunno:
     
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    If you can believe it, Bobby Brown was my at the time my then three year old daughter's favorite song for about a month. Of course she didn't understand one bit about it's meaning, but the name Bobby Brown and the music resonated for her. One day she asked me to draw Bobby Brown for her and told me what he looked like. He was brown and wore stripped pants ! :rofl:
     
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