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  1. duskwings

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    It s not so rare to find a musicophile,a musician or or a phylologist who knows everything about an artist.
     
  2. Valnar

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    It's because producers stick to what they know will work and he finesse of production lays in engineering, songwriting, arrangement, but you are right, those things are not mutually exclusive so you got your funky progressions from muse, radiohead, björk etc.
     
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    One of the best two-chord songs, and any kind of chord songs IMO ... so it's not the size that matters, it's how you use them!

     
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  4. Zenarcist

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    AC are on another level, I wonder if they listened to the Beach Boys?
     
  5. Why do most songs follow the rule of minimum of 4 chords?

    Well, eventually because most of these songs you're probably referring to were made by:
    • the BAD: low-level copycats "working around" previously existent "succesful musical-hooks" with absolutely nothing relevant to say/add, or even not saying/adding anything at all;
    • the NOT-SO-BAD: lyricists which have something relevant to say using "made-popular musical structures" to convey their reflections upon, so what matters is the message, not the music.

    All in all, song-making differs big time from music-making, having music theory background or not...
     
  6. madbuzzin

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    That means theres 1.1b retards out there that are simple minded sheep
     
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  7. F.L.O.W.

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    Which stem directly from the recording industry. Since printed music of the singles charts started getting big 75 years ago.
    It's true, yes, but I thought it was no secret.
    "analog warmth of single chord songs" is nice, and funny though!
    Or that the stats, and the industry, lie...
    Oh, wait a minute...
     
  8. Yuri

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    All you need to know.

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  9. MMJ2017

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    Hi , how are you ?

    So in a key you have 3 functions.

    Tonic
    Subdominant
    Dominant

    3 chords are tonic
    2 chords are Subdominant
    2 chords are Dominant

    So in the key of C major

    Tonic function
    Cmaj
    Emin
    Amin

    Subdominant function
    Dmin
    Fmaj

    Dominant function
    Gmaj
    Bdim

    And say you make a pretty simple song that is mainly

    [ Tonic] / [Subdominant]/[ Tonic]/[Tonic]

    Then you have 3 tonic chords
    And two Subdominant

    Key of C maj ( just diatonic)
    Tonic/ subdominant/ tonic/ tonic
    Cmaj/ Fmaj/ Cmaj/ Cmaj
    Or
    Amin/Dmin/Amin/Cmaj
    Or
    Emin/Fmaj/Amin/Cmaj
    Or
    Cmaj/Dmin/Emin/Amin
    Or
    Emin/Fmaj/Amin/Cmaj

    ( a few examples of applying chords to the
    Functional blueprint

    / Tonic/ Subdom/ Tonic /tonic
    ( its called the heros journey

    Tonic is the hero relaxed, still , motionless, passive

    Subdominant is journey, motion , active moving away from home

    Tonic then we go back home

    Tonic the hero is victorious
     
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    They can start by paying ME for all those tracks I'll never be able to write!!
     
  11. Atlantis84

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    they do it just so the audience can remember the melodies .....when the melody is long its harder for people to remember it
    even tho it can still be a great song it's just harder to remember all the melodies in it .....i would say it nails done to people short
    attention span
     
  12. BuntyMcCunty

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    Your exquisite taste in music will never:
    a.) make you rich
    b.) find you a lover
    c.) make you happy

    If anything, it appears to be making you really miserable.
     
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    From Sideburns fanzine no.1, 1977.. :winker:
     
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    Two is more than enough, and it helps sing along songs. It's about tension and resolution. It's also cultural and somewhat based on the meter of normal speech.

     
  15. Mynock

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    oh boy... thanks Gsus we have things like this:

     
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  16. phumb-reh

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    The number of chords is immaterial. First they're there to express whatever there needs to be expressed harmonically.

    Like Miles Davis - So What is 2 chords:


    John Coltrane - Giant Steps is... fuck knows how many, there's a lot and the speed of the changes is ludicrous:


    Fun piece of trivia about Giant Steps is that the pianist completely loses his shit trying to play a solo on this original recording. Sure... he was unrehearsed since he'd seen the chords the same day I think, but it was something completely new harmonically. He's a really good player but it was too much... he later did record it with a great piano solo, but it's amusing to ponder what the fuck he was thinking trying to play something :)
     
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