My computer is so fast that I can hear what I play 3 milliseconds before I even hit a note. My music now writes itself.
And oh, I use an RME LSD IIC soundcard with 512 gigs of memory, a future proof Asimov motherboard with the newest Foundation6 processor.

Eat my dust.

 

Well I'm not a mathematical genius but 1.17 + 2.50 is a bit more than 3ms?

 

Right, I forgot about it. A good starting point.

 

Just to give you something to go off of price wise.. I spent about 4 Grand and still get latency.. so I hope you got a bag to drop

 

Did you find one second hand for cheap? And how many plugins can it run?

 

It's why we measure Round-Trip Ping before recording using external effect sends. The latency introduced by the DAW software is a constant. You cannot change it. The plugins are much heavier processing and introduce latency; especially if you are like OP and want to use 10 reverbs in a project. (that's what it says, anyway). But their Latency cannot be controlled either. The same FX chain from front to back will measure so close on two different computers, unless the machine is under-resourced and lagging; that is almost a constant. What is left? The driver. You can research to see actual differences, and using a lower latency driver software is controllable. You buy a different audio interface with a different driver. If you can offload some of the effects plugins to an interface with external hardware DSP FX; that is also something you can control by the interface you select. You can research any latency that will be introduced by reading the specs (including driver) carefully when you select the interface. You can even spec out the difference between interfaces because of connection type between the interface and the computer (i.e. Thunderbolt 3 being faster than USB-2 or other examples, etc.)

My point is just that a majority of the latency that you can actually make choices about, are not inside the machine. I would not consider buying a new computer to improve Latency at all. (unless I needed/wanted a new computer anyway).

 

edit:thought the OP was asking after noticeable latency not zero latency..
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wouldn't any new system manage to play that without a problem? I mean even one 4770k i have at home manages that load without noticeable latency, S1 has a system to prioritize the current channel, direct monitoring does that too. so if its being able to play your keyboard and jam and record to whats being playback its already fully doable, but its hard to say without being more specific on how many milliseconds we are talking about, its going to be open to many interpretations.

 

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I thought you mean "I or O" not "I+O".

 

And I spent about $600 (not counting the Quantum) and I don't
It's mostly about the interface. Not entirely but mostly. Build any decent PC, tune it properly without bloatware and crap running in the background, have a decent amount of RAM, good interface, Bob's your uncle.
At home I run a used laptop I bought for $300 with 16 GB RAM, added a 2nd SSD and a Behringer Euphoria interface and it does dang nearly as good.

 

Basically, you don't. Not with the OS's provided these days out of the box or even severely optimized within 1" of them not working.

 

I suggest to read this guide calypto.us (redirecting to https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c2-lUJq74wuYK1WrA_bIvgb89dUN0sj8-hO3vqmrau4)

 

I wonder what kind of threads we'll get once quantum computers become widely available.

"Hey guys how can I reduce latency for multi channel quantum entanglement processing? I'm recording the universe beginning and ending at the same time and the second proton is having some phase issues, please help"

 

YES it would be very nice indeed if this planet (and its supposed "smartest inhabitants") reached the level of tech and good sense that was depicted in every star trek movie/episode that was ever created, but that is science fiction, not (current anyway) reality.

 

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Why even record it when you could just clone. It's faster, cheaper and because the universe remembers itself you don't need to buy any new memory which tends to sell more expensively during the summer months for some inexplicable reason. About the latency thing, if you stop measuring and observing that phenomenon it no longer exists and any residual latency will ceast to be.

 

Oh I totally agree with you, I usually go around 128 for tracking at 96k and it works perfectly fine for my workflow. I was just pointing out it’s possible to get it to 32 if someone truly wanted to work at that buffer size for some reason.

the app could be useful for people looking to cut crackles and pops on their system too. Could be worth a try.

 

yea, noticeable latency = zero latency
( i know there is couple ms here and there even with the retro midi cables... )

 

Thank you everyone

 

Dante audio cards on a 100Mbps network has a lowest latency of 1msec.

 

I found that anything above 15ms of latency is too much to still be playable. I'm talking about recording virtual plugins (instruments and in particular drums) in realtime.

 

So, what would be a a good low-cost solution to a low-latency setup. I'm aware of RME and thunderbolt-interfaces, but they are out of by price range.