Hi there fellow AudioSex members (although I'm still not a member because I'm not allowed to use chat),

I'm testing some of the drumsequencers and I'm not certain which one to pick. I bought Playbeat3 because it was on sale and the promo vid they have gave me the confidence to give them some coin. After a week of testing I'm not really satisfied with the workflow. After checking other promo's and YT tutorials, Xfer Nerve seems to hit the spot for me. I want to make beats for Trap and Techno, so there must be something out there to help me out with that. But.....

The only downsize of Nerve demo is that the GUI is extremely small and using accessibility tools like the Windows magnifier isn't really productive, I know because I tried it. My eyesight sucks eyeballs and the arthritis in my hand controlling the mouse sucks even more, but certainly no eyeballs.

I've got two questions.

1. Is there a sequencer which comes near to what Nerve can do? If so, can you please sum up these sequencers? Nerve really has a steep price compared to other sequencers.
2. Can anyone share the latest Nerve installer because apparently there's one that has the possibilty to unNerve my eyes and hand but Google says No and Bing AI isn't that smart either?

Many 's upfront and cheers,

John

 

The demo doesn't have it? Because, I hope you're not asking for warez here...

 

From https://support.xferrecords.com/article/37-nerve

" 3) Download the latest version from "Your Account" ... "

All you have to do is login.


Maybe also checkout geist2

 

Sorry for not getting back here sooner. I totally forgot about my question and I was busy with getting my DAW back into action again after some really strange iLok behaviour, directly after installing Universal Audio Native plugins, a great deal btw without taking that good old OS murder into account. Got to love iLok and every single company that embraces it. It's a 100% customer friendly solution ;)

@No Avenger I'm certainly not asking for warez here, only for the latest demo installer so I can test it because it's not available and back then I couldn't find anything about it on the interwebs. Looking back at what I wrote I totally understand why you warned me but you can be relieved, I'm in here with a clean heart looking for a good solution for a two-sided problem. One of which is my cross-eye/double glasses switching situation from time to time. It's not the age, that's what the doctor told me, it's the brain....

I've found my answer after using DuckDuckGo and not Google btw. It seems that Steve Duda can be contacted about testing a demo which has GUI resizing active. It's rather strange not putting that up for demo because, well, High-DPI is getting a bit of a standard lately, 5 years ago. Without that feature it's a total Nerve racking experience (sorry Steve).

But I really need to thank @AlexDMC for his advice. Geist2 seems to be Nerve on steroids, never heard of it. But as it goes with my luck, Geist2 is discontinued. Tried to buy it because it's $20 less than Nerve and I can deduct VAT but bam, FXpension software is no longer available on this site. Please visit Roli.com etc. It's seems that Geist2 has become a bad investment. Some people are selling their licenses on Knobcloud but what do you get? Software that is discontinued. You can't find anything remotely pointing to FXpension products in the support section on the Roli interwebsite. Paying $120 for discontinued software while they sold it for $179, nehhh. when it drops below say $80 I will take my chance. Geist2 is the tool I want and hopefully when support is needed it isn't that shady after all.

Back to square one again knowing the following. Geist2 has the best options and functionality but it is discontinued, it seems to have a shady support structure and Knobcloud prices are to high. Nerve is supported but it also looks like a bad investment looking at the features Geist2 is giving you hence, Nerve is missing a lot of features and looking at some of the scarce release notes I couldn't find any evidence that Mr. Duda is expanding the Nerve feature set. Oh well, life can throw some extremely complicated things at a person from time to time but for those moments there's always Bobby McFerrin singing his wise words and whistling the cherries on top of it.

Thanks all for helping me here. Maybe I'm sticking with Battery 4 and all sorts of M4L devices to keep getting what I want. Sometimes the hard way is the only way to go

One last completely off-topic thing @No Avenger , I really think that the exclamation emoji doesn't look like an exclamation emoji at all. It has some female beauty in it but it certainly isn't a !. This is what you get when you need to resize every single thing on your screen, the burden it brings. Focus and once you see it, it will never leave your brain.... Thankfully It's a confirmation that !'ve seen places, that's one item off the bucketlist.

PS. Could you please put a lock on this one before I get more dislikes. Still I can't leave this little info thread without thanking @mrsex for giving me My First Dislike on AudioSex.
A historical moment it is

 

Last edited: Jul 25, 2023

Just for the books, it was a friendly reminder, a warning is something different and appears on your Profile page.

We are audiosex.pro.

That wouldn't prevent further ratings, only further comments. But I neither understand why @mrsex rated you dislike.

 

Sugar Bytes DrumComputer might fit your bill.
Has a nice drum synth engine inside.

 

Last edited: Jul 25, 2023

Man, I've done the same hunt for most of this year. There are only two that will not piss you off while making trap.... Geist2 and Beat Scholar...Geist2 really gets me 98% of the way there. You just have to do a small workaround to get true triplet HH rolls in it. Beat Scholar is the newbie to me but so good in helping you find quick perc/HH patterns (drum patts period) and triplets are much easier on it. Honeslty, If Beat Scholar gave you the ability to reverse your sample and copy/duplicate more than one pattern at a time, it would replace Geist2 for me. Geist is old and seems like the Devs dont care to update it anymore. Dont sleep on Beat Scholars interface, its wierd at first but it works. Embrace the 'Pizza slices'...youll get it once you check it out lol

But yeah, I was looking for a sequencer that was close to FL studios for Trap/House and ended up on these two.

 

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Last edited: Dec 13, 2023

For EDM drum/perc tracks I have always just used Reason for these kinds of things. Reason is very daw friendly and there's always rewire when you want to sync things up to other vst's. Since Reason is now vst friendly as well, it's almost a one stop shop for anything EDM.

 

I have to thank alot of fellow members for feeding me even more info, you're the first one @maxion0090
I will check out Beat Scholar for sure and after playing again with Playbeat I'm totally done with it. I even bought MPC Studio yesterday hoping this would bring new insights but nehhhh. My "I want" list has grown. I've fallen in love with a MPC Live, for the dull moments at the health center or I trade in my Push 2.... Choices....

Reading further, thinking about your FL Studio sequencer wish in mind, I was browsing Gumroad because, well, what else can a guy do if sleep seems miles away. I maybe have stumbled upon something that comes close to a FL Studio sequencer in Live and it's all made possible with M4L.

Here you check out that litte $15 Juicy device. It seems amazingly simple and making a beat would only take a minute, or two.
I think I will go for it, what's there to lose, right?

Cheers,
John

 

Reviving this old thread, I'm in a similar boat to OP.

I'm in between XO and Drumnet, but I don't love either of them. XO's sample cloud thing is nice, but it's a bit of a pain to load a specific sample unless you know it by name. Drumnet's AI sample generation is neat but the sample importing seems to be semi-broken. I put a bunch of samples in my user folder and they just refuse to appear in the app. I need to drag and drop them each time, which is functional, but not ideal. It's on the sister site tho, which is a huge plus. I tried playbeat lite as well but it doesn't allow importing samples.

I'll check out geist and beat scholar.

I just found a version 2 that has 6 tracks and 32 steps. If this was VST it would be perfect, as wanting to find a replacement for the FL studio sequencer is what sent me down this road in the first place.

 

Last edited: Aug 26, 2024

sugarbytes is a trip...been playing with Obscurium...Tried Egoist, but so far only made 1 decent track, lots of options in there

But OP could try arturia Spark2 software, I think a demo is available at the Arturia website. Took me a while to figure out their paradigm, but its fun to play with and has massive options if you want to reprogram or build a synth with drag and drop. SparkLE controllers are discontinued, but you can actually do more with just the software because 2 rows of buttons(pads) in the software.

The Spark2 software has a ton of preset patterns that can be modified, and also a ton of samples that are grouped into kits, but you can replace individual samples to create your own custom kits and you can drag the midi patterns or the audio out to your daw. Arturia has stopped developing it (or at least hasn't updated it in a few years) but what is there is stable and works well and really doesn't need updating.

The controllers show up on reverb, ebay, etc. price is all over but typically 100$ or less - if you have arthiritis, I'd stick to the software and try a touchscreen.

Battery 3 from Native Instruments is another option..

 

Hey, I still have iSpark on an old iPad and the Spark LE controller!
Quite fun indeed.

 

in the end your DAW ....
although old spark vst knocks well...
microtonic and sb drumcomputer and such are nice ...1-2 max devices ...
but in the end the DAW is best ---multi channel,effects shizzle wise

 

XLN Audio XO
Algonaut Atlas
Decomposer Sitala

 

Apisonic Speedrum, all the way.

Huge feature set and the dev is very responsive to user requests. I would also suggest TAL-Drum, which is similar (and in many ways, the direct competitor of Speedrum), but it does not have a built-in sequencer, whereas Speedrum does (and its great!).

 

Last edited: Sep 10, 2024

what can i do in there what i cant to in the DAW?

 

get lost in more knobs and sliders than NASA launching a Jupiter probe....
seems like a bit much for a 5 pc drum kit...

 

had sugar bytes DrumComputer on my machine, but uninstalled .. Installed it yesterday and gave it a playaround
Very nice program. Thanks for mentioning it, it motivated me to get it going...

love the sound...

 

I just read something about Ableton adding "new official sequencers" in Live 12.1 which may be suitable for drums.