You fucking troll!
You got me second time!
I lost patience for you

 

Push 2, Mac mini (with the extra £200 memory upgrade) and external sound card would create the same experience minus the MPE funtion. In fact the Mac mini would be exponentially better. But it would be pushing the same price I think so maybe £1900 isn't too much to ask for something like this. Also, production costs are steep now. I like the updated features from the Push 2, they seem sensible.

If anybody wants to buy me one I'll test it for you so you don't waste your time buying yourself one and realising it isn't for you.

 

Will push 3 work with pirated suite?

 

It runs on a specialized Linux OS. (no VST's)

Intel® NUC 11 Compute Element CM11EBi38W is the one they ship with and it costs ~$286.00 (came out in 2021!)
a SSD m.2 nvme 256gb Gen 3 - under $100. A lithium flat pack battery 2.5 Ah ~ $100 on the high side. There's a 2 pound difference between standalone and regular version so likely they have the heatsink in the upgrade.

Other options for NUC Elements are:

This isn't a pc replacement, IMHO and a horrible price for an upgrade

 

Push 2 does.

 

Yeah as pretty and integrated as it is, unless you really plan to use the MPE pads and really enjoy the standalone workflow you can get absolutely fantastic hardware that'd last you for years for that price. I definitely see the appeal tho and the fact that they're using intel compute units as an upgrade path is groundbreaking as fuck for controllers and i really hope this spirit of modularity and upgradeability catches on, lord knows we need way more of this sentiment in this "throw it away in 2 years because everything is soldered/on-package" market we currently live in.

 

remains to be seen. to connect a new Push it shows this:

 

1999 dol? lol

 

Apart from the Launchpad x what other midi devices do you have? I MIGHT finally have cracked it... You'll need a controller that has at least 6 knobs on it though (5 and one for fx)
Well you COULD do it all through the launchpad but I haven't worked that out yet.

It involves creating a .txt file called 'options.txt' within C:\Users\(YOUR: ID)\AppData\Roaming\Ableton\YOUR VERSION of LIVE\Preferences

type in -EnableArmOnSelection / save and reboot Ableton

Thanks to #JustineGriffin (On youtube ) for that!


This allows for swapping between drums/ instruments ALL at the touch of one button

I'm currently working on adding several kits to the drums. several alternate basses to the bass channel.. same for pads/ leads/ and strings/ guitars etc etc which will be controlled all by knobs on a separate controller

 

Ordered my Push 3 controller, I currently do not need or want a standalone, will replace my Push 2 and Sensel Morph with it

 

This demo shows it's true power.

 

Just adding in my thoughts here, I'm thinking there may not be an offline authorization option to use Push 3 in standalone mode

The process outlined below appears to require a log-in to phone home to your Ableton account from the Push:
https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/8507568959004-Authorizing-Live-on-Push-standalone-

 

Oh bugger..I remember now you've told me that before..

 

This is exactly why I won't be buying a Push 3 to replace my Push 2. Like any new tech that has future prospects, the first generation is often short-lived, quickly replaced, depreciates quicker and sooner, and is often buggy too.

Though there's nothing to dislike (apart from the baulking price tag), if you consider the Push 1 was released in 2013 as a new device/tech, and quickly replaced by 2015 with Push 2 that resolved a lot of the issues with Push 1 (such as the not so great display and visual limitations), and it took until 2023 then to improve on Push 2 and release Push 3, an astounding 8 years! For me, Push 3 seems more like a Push Gen 2 Mk 1 rather than a Push 3, due to the different concepts and technologies, like MPE and the standalone mode and so on. Therefore, I'd expect a Push 4 to be released in the not too distant future to iron our the quirks and bugs that will no doubt be discovered in Push 3 over the next year or two. Therefore, personally I'm likely to skip Push 3 and wait another 3 or so years to see if there's a Push 4 (or Push Gen 2 Mk 2) and reassess then. To me, personally, the price of Push 3 and the risks of it being short-lived before we see an improved Push 4 don't make it an appealing choice.

 

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I actually think this is a platform they'll stick to for a longer while, since it's upgradable.

I'm guessing that they'll make the money by selling software upgrades (you'll need a license anyway already) and "Ableton Certified" HW upgrade kits and offer professional support for those.

The biggest oddity here is the skimpy audio IO. 2in/2out? I'd imagine people playing live or integrating this into their DJ setup would like a bit more. Sure there's the ADAT expansion, but then you're already losing a fair bit of benefit of being a standalone.

 

And I think this is probably the way to go....in about 2 years when the Push 3 barebones unit prices have dropped to sub-£500 preowned

My only thought on this is that Ableton growth and large user base is largely due to the non-legit user base embracing it over any other DAW over several years. Granted this is only hypothetical based on my understanding at present, but if the Push 3 requires home calling to validate license in any way, this would automatically rule out that majority non-legit user base of Ableton, which probably make up a significant chunk of the sub-prosumer level user base. That significantly limits the customer base for Push 3 if this is the case, but this would seem to also render the standalone mode a bit dubious as not everywhere would have WiFi obviously, unless it utilises something like a home call every 30 days or something to validate the license.

 

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