So 11 years for a primitive Rhino3D now it will be another 10 years for Blah-blah-Urs-empty promise to build a synth
Zibra 2030

 

bye bye serum

 

Im buying it. no hesitation.

 

I'll be shocked if they ever release a synth I don't instabuy (especially as their new product deals are often the best deals their products will get)

 

Robert McNeel & Associates (the company behind Rhino 3D) is big, u-he is small. 10 (max. 15) employee and some of them are needed for cleaning office or are responsible for support...

Do you understand real complexity of development of such a synth? U-he develops several products (including Hive and Diva) and all af them aren't simple.

And why mostly working synth is blah-blah-blah? No, it isn't. We can see it. It's not just words.

 

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To those who are complaining it's taking a long time to come out, I'd like to see what type of synth you could produce in 11 years!

 

Why so serious, man, you just need to read u-he forum to get how many times unrealistic promises were given by Urs-Big-mouth to his customers, he is a master on that and I'm just immune to his empty words for all these years. Zebra 3 is a Half-Life 3 of vsti-world, the only difference Gabe didn't promise to realize HL3 next year like Urs did since what 2012(?). The market meantime is dominated by nasty Serum.
Ask Urs were is Uhbik X which was the marketing lie with Uhbik effect bundle in 2010 but so many products went out since then.
Oh boy how much time past

https://i.imgur.com/V5D47vT.png

 

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You know, most companies say *nothing* about what their plans are, because people refuse to acknowledge that things change, we don't all know what the future holds, ideas reform, different priorities come into play, and we need to be flexible.

None of these things are "promises", just an outline of his current ideas/plans at the time, to help guide the userbase as to what they are working on. And sometimes, plans change. That's life...

 

Look one more time through the picture of usual forum blah-blah. "Promise little but do much".

 

You're interpreted some outlines of plans and intentions as a "customer promise". There is no such promise in those words - you've imagined something that doesn't exist, then are annoyed that they didn't uphold your imaginary promise.

At the time, he was I'm sure working on that product (this, his words aren't a "lie", as you categories them). Then in the course of things, I expect plans changed, as they often do in life, and they certainly do in development.

I'm continually rearranging the order of my various to-do lists and priorities - even more so when you are running a business and managing people.

 

Zebra was/is a great synth, and what Urs showed off in the alpha for sure is exciting. So I don't mind waiting some more. I am looking forward to it.

 

Not my interpretation you are making false assumptions here as if you a Urs fanboy, I'm an u-he customer since 2008 maybe and a member of his forum I quite know the situation and take it with good humor just call it "bullshit marketing". UhbikX was a selling point which never happened https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/u-he-uhbik
There were much more misinforming from BigMouth Urs, but I don't care i'ts his reputation and how he does business.

My point here we won't see Zebra3 as a finished product in the next few years.not earlier than 3-4 years. Thats all

 

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Zebra is still great, and flexible as you like. Non-flashy and easy to use.

While it can get really digital, it's not a wavetable synth so they're not comparable. So like Serum didn't replace Zebra, Z3 will not replace Zebra.

A true workhorse synth. Ah, and only 30e to upgrade for us Zebra2 owners.

And @Synclavier is right, mentally give any release date a good 2 year boost, and if none's given, just assume "someday".

As for myself, no rush.

 

The Serum is dead people don't seem to know that Serum 2 is in development?

 

Yeah Zebra is a great complement to Serum but not a replacement imo... Zebra is more comparable to Phase Plant, which has a similar modular design and workflow, hopefully Z3 will match PP in more modern modulation workflow and visual feedback.

That said I used serum for a long time as my goto for easily constructed dirty growls and snappy metallic bonks... But i also own Pigments and since the 3.5 update with cross mod it's completely replaced serum for me as it can do the "FM from B" stuff better and easier. So if Zebra 3 can nail that workflow instead of remaining a modular sound design time sink (sorry phase plant) then it could probably replace most every synth.. I'm here for serum 2 though esp with DMG contributing FX.

 

didnt the uhbiks got an upgrade/rework since then?

 

yea, kind of
2.0 alpha stage since 2019(!) which speaks for it self

but here is some info from Urs at Nov 11, 2019 who gently pushes you to spend money now
https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=534519

https://i.imgur.com/ZH5qip6.png

 

No rush definitely, for these years I just stopped waiting for it, I'm in Zen state it comes when it comes
There so much interesting stuff to play already. I've been pleasantly surprised with Surge XT recently, it's really amazing for a freeware

 

SuperBooth is happening in my town, but the tickets were so freaking expensive, I didn't even care to visit. Could have jumped the fence though. Maybe next time!