would you help me to find this squier electric guitar?

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  1. SirGigantor

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    hi @SirGigantor.. i've already explained it in previous posts.. in a nutshell i like the aesthetics of that squier, and i knew almost nothing about the baritone! one thing is still not clear to me.. if i take that squier body and put a "normal" neck on it do i have a "normal" guitar??
     
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    The bridge would be in the wrong place and you would not be able to intonate it unless you move the bridge.

    It's not that hard to paint a tele body if you know how to paint or if you have a friend that paints cars or works in a body shop, get them to do it.

    A baritone guitar is the guitar in-between a bass guitar and a standard alto guitar. Think of it like the difference between a Viola and Violin.

    Baritones generally have 27"-30" scale lengths and are tuned down a fourth from standard guitar tuning. So B1–E2–A2–D3–F♯3–B3. A standard telecaster runs a 25.5" scale length. At 30" though you have to ask yourself if it's just a 6 string short scale bass.
     
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    hi @JMOUTTON.. thanks, it's much clearer to me now! pity, i really liked the aesthetics of that guitar.. in any case yes, there is a cheap body shop near my house, and lost in the garage i should have an old spray gun for the compressor.. i would take this as an alternative, and i would make it black!:
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    or those who linked me @clone and @ᑕ⊕ֆᗰIᑢ...
     
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    Best thing you can do :wink:

    In a Baritone guitar with a Regular neck,
    not only the Bridge but also the Pickups would be out of place..

    And buying a new Neck of a similar quality will cost as much as the guitar..

    The difficult thing for Painting it is the actual Finish,
    lots of different materials/methods, so they need to know the stuff, and buff/polish it a Lot.. :wink:






    For pickups, it would be interesting to try fit some of those SD P90's..
    https://www.seymourduncan.com/products/pickups/electric/p90

    Or maybe some of these, the Jazzmaster or other..
    https://www.seymourduncan.com/products/pickups/electric/offset-other
     
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    @franko22

    It's not as hard to paint an already finished body if you know how to paint. That body has a poly or polycrylic finish so no lacquers or nitrocellulose unless you want to make life hard and go down to bare wood. If you want black just stick with modern automotive finishes.

    Just remember to remove the electronics, neck and pots, tape off the neck pocket and stuff some newspaper into the f-holes. Use a de-glossing agent and some 000 steel-wool or orange mesh pads and hang it up securely. A quality primer and paint goes a long way. Finish it off with 2-3 coats of a quality coat of 2K clear. Cut, buff and let it dry for at least a week before putting it back together.

    Paint is all about prep and on a finished body it's 95% done since you don't have to deal with bare surfaces. If you etch it well and give the primer something to stick to properly that's 100%. How well you can handle a sprayer matters though. You are probably looking at around60-90 euros in materials and about 6 hours of work.

    Good luck.
     
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    It's easy to do, you just need to find somebody who refinishes guitar bodies. I had my Baja Telecaster refinished in white blonde nitro that originally came with a thick poly finish. It now looks like an expensive guitar and has aged beautifully.
     
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    thanks to all guys.. i also like the idea of building it on warmoth, or similar sites.. in a few days i'll decide what to do, and i'll let you know.. hi @The Dude.. what do you disagree with? do you think it's not a decent guitar? or is it not a good idea to repaint it?
     
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    I think you should not paint a new guitar just buy the color you want up front.
     
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    That is the best advice, try before you buy it! See how it feels and if suits you and the genre you aiming for. See if you are comfortable with the scale and heavier strings.

    @JMOUTTON said;

    A baritone guitar is the guitar in-between a bass guitar and a standard alto guitar. Think of it like the difference between a Viola and Violin. Baritones generally have 27"-30" scale lengths and are tuned down a fourth from standard guitar tuning. So B1–E2–A2–D3–F♯3–B3. A standard telecaster runs a 25.5" scale length. At 30" though you have to ask yourself if it's just a 6 string short scale bass.

    https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=FENDER+Squier+Paranormal+Baritone&iax=videos&ia=videos

    As for my personal opinion, black guitars have a very dark vibe. You can only see the shape in contrast with other colors. They disappear if you wear a black shirt or on stage... The sunburst and colored models have a happier, warmer vibe if you compare them side by side. The red one above looks really good to me...

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=black+guitars&t=ffab&iax=images&ia=images
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sunburst+guitars&t=ffab&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images

    https://www.musicstore.com/en_US/US...-Thinline-2-Color-Sunburst/art-GIT0057124-000

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    Customize (change) the pickguard to black is easier...

    You are looking for a 370 Euros price range guitar. You are going to spend money and work to alter something new, already good.
    My question is - is it worth it? Can you make it as good as the original? Are you sure about the results? You're gonna have to dismantle the guitar in order to do the paint job and put it back together again...

    In the end, black, sunburst or green, you are the one that should be happy with it!
    Good luck my friend!
     
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    Sorry, I only log on semi frequently. But what JMoutton said is correct. The measurements on the guitar are actually all different. You can just tune one down, but the strings will have tuning problems, it has to do with the harmonics on the strings. It'd probably be fine for most things, but the strings will be out of tune at certain frets.

    In order to have the intonation optimal across all the frets, the neck length, string tuning, bridge position, etc . . . all have to be correct, even the saddle has to be optimal.


     
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    Don't forget if you have a floating bridge you will also have to adjust that since the string tension will decrease.
     
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