Hey, all...

Had been running BobDule Kontakt 7.13 for a while with zero problems. 7.15 comes out, I deleted the old and installed it. Standalone just doesn't start and VST crashes Reaper.

Went and did some deep cleaning, got rid of everything connected to Kontak 7, tried again, same deal, then went and cleaned up and tried the R2R and a portable I got. Same problem. Not only that, my Kontakt 6 and Kontakt 5 won't load anymore, so I haven't any way to use Kontakt, and have a lot of projects that have it.

Anyone else have this problem? I don't even know where to start, and I don't want to have to do a Windows reinstall. Thanks in advance for any advice.

 

Friend, you need to do the following process:

Install the first version of bobdule, 7.0.

You can open the program even without patching, in demo mode, and use it at least once.

After that you overwrite the previous installation as it is an upgrade and not a full install. So every time you open it, it will give an error in the machine registry in Standalone, or the DAW crashes completely!

 

NEVER uninstall a previous version of Kontakt to install another one, always overwrite!

 

So start with the Bob Dule 7.0 and then upgrade to the BobDule 7.15?

 

Exactly! Whenever installing the latest versions, do this, overwrite the previous one

 

Okay, turns out it was the r4e one I originally installed. Anyways, I went and reinstalled that one, and it worked fine. So did the other Kontakts. I think I had this happen before. Then, I restarted the computer and back to crashing and none of the Kontakts working again. So something is happening when the computer's restarted for the first time after the install. That makes no sense at all.

 

There's some shared files/registry stuff between all Kontakts that can cause a zillion problems. But this "after startup problem" is new even to me...
Anyways, do you know if you have some cleaner or similar in the startup process? It could even be some Windows stuff. A shot in the dark, but maybe...

 

No, no cleaners or anything. I'm really baffled by this, and it's a big deal, given how much I use Kontakt 7.

 

launch it until it open, it can crash 3x before open sometime, particulary when you change of version and fix method.
the cache have to be rebuilded correctlly with the last version used.

check the process in task manager for the standalone. the first opening can be long if you use a lot of libraries.
some windows process also slow the kontakt opening, as browser full speed download, windows update, etc...

since version 7, it also need a regedit key to launch
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Native Instruments\Shared
without it it will never start... the deep clean should'nt delete this one or the init will fail.

 

Last edited: Jan 20, 2023

Should I uninstall mine, and go back and start with your first release (7.0.1.1)? Then do the 7.15? Thanks, Bob.

 

no it is totally useless
it don't need uninstall or a previous version.
simply install over if you have an older version.

 

Okay, BobDule. I installed your 7.15. Crashed in reaper, and the standalone just doesn't do anything when I click on it. I don't even see it in task manager. I did go and look at that registry entry you showed me above, and I don't see any of that. So what went wrong?

 

Last edited: Jan 20, 2023

this regedit key is normally added by native access install.
you can create it manually. copy/paste this: save in .reg and clic on it

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Native Instruments\Shared]
"uret-init"=dword:00000000
"uret-configuration"="ask my little sister"
"uret-allow-transfer"=dword:00000000
"uret-machine-id"="00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000"


the kontakt setup don't manage it, if missing kontakt will never start.

 

Last edited: Jan 20, 2023

Do I need to get a cracked version of Native Access installer? Where can I get what I need for that?

 

Native Access is the original, it enable to update the libraries catalog when something new is out. it update the NativeAccess.xml file at the opening with last adds.

nobody fixed it to enable the download again, as before NI secure the urls.

 

So how do I get it, then, or get a registry key? Is there any release on here that has it?

 

You should try bobdule's solution before asking more questions, because probably it'll fix your problem

 

I actually missed that post before I posted my response. My mistake.

 

Okay, I tried the regedit, and reinstalled 7.15. Still not working. Did the 'worked once' thing, then wouldn't work after restart.

https://imgur.com/a/9NFrpoC

 

Last edited: Jan 23, 2023