You need THIS Plugin

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  1. mino45

    mino45 Kapellmeister

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    I guess there should be a balance between knowing the plugins you already have and trying new things. I started buying what i use some time ago and it helped me, because i had to focus more on what I have instead of what I could have or want to have. I am still using cracked versions of the plugins that I bought because a lot of the time they are more efficient etc. but not having to install every new plugin and obsessing over them has helped me focusing on my music more.
     
  2. Uprock

    Uprock Kapellmeister

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    You are just hoarding plugins![ been there got the teeshirt!] just because you have the latest plugins doesn't mean you have the edge on other producers! keep it basic & minimum.:woot:
     
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  3. Academia

    Academia Producer

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    This may sound like a cliché, but anyway: I remember when I decided to unistall 90% of the plugins from my box, and tried to learn how to use the Klanghelm DC8C compressor. I took several days to try stuff, and since then is basically the only compressor that I use, and deleted like 10 other compressors (including my beloved x32 URS 1970). I followed the same process with Ableton EQ8. The same happened to me when I installed Spire VSti with something like 10.000 presets, and soon realized that I was using three or four, so I erased the whole thing and took some time learning how to create the sounds I wanted with that beautiful synth.
    This all let me concentrate more on how I wanted to sound (it was all still crap, but that's is not the point) and less in changing plugins, solving problems with incompatibility, DAW crashes, etc etc.
    So, removing unused plugins didn´t stop my music sounding like an agonizing rat farting out of control, but allowed me to focus on it.
    Now that I don´t have a computer I went back to enjoying playing my guitar and studying music theory.
     
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  4. ArticStorm

    ArticStorm Moderator Staff Member

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    Hehe been download almost everything by R2R (unless its a very huge release, which i maybe see no use for), put it on external 5TB HDD and if i want something, i install it.

    I have most of the time a basic/minimal setup:
    Live 11, reaper (a few installs of the same version for a different purpose), FL21(if only Live would load the FL VST plugin right :(), Reason 12 via Rack Plugin (the rawness/cheapness of the old synths in Reason is just to unique to not use it)
    Synths: Serum, Spire, Sylenth1 (v2 and v3), uhe plugins (not all, but most!), Viper, JP6k, Albino3, Spectral, V-station, Korg plugins, Roland Plugins, µtonic, True Pianos, XLN Keys, Kontakt5, Massive (needs a reskin :'(, but still miles better than MX), Nexus4, Vanguard2
    FX: Fabfilter, WaveArts Masterverb5, Melodyne 4, IL Plugins, Valhalla, LFOtool, Volumeshaper 4, AAR, Eventide, GRM Tools, Live is very complete in terms of FX devices.
    (I focus on uniqueness of plugins, you dont need 20 reverbs, which are very similar, you maybe need 5 reverbs, which do things different or have a different feature set)

    This seems to work fine. I do not really install plugins in an instant, when they are released, if i could need them, i will install them for the session. If it didnt work out, i will uninstall them after the session.
     
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  5. MozartEstLa

    MozartEstLa Platinum Record

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    I don't agree: I don't need THIS plugin, but ALL plugins... :rofl:
    :bow:
     
  6. Riddim Machine

    Riddim Machine Rock Star

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    I have some clear reasons for not using lots of plugins:
    -Some ones have a learning curve that is not rewarding in the final result
    -Most of modern plugins are CPU hogs that don't give you a option to turn off oversampling (sometimes it's a hog without OS :rofl:) and i can get restricted in the middle of my project without CPU headroom.
    -Filters are powerful tools
    -Compressors are powerful tools
    -Any kind of saturation is available. I choose my favorite flavours and just forget about some saturation/preamp magic, because it really can destroy a song if you used too much "analog emulations" on your projects.
    -Don't want a lot of synths or virtual instruments. The best of each type (horns, drums, keys, synths, etc) is ok for me, because i like crafting my tone.


    And i don't feel i'm missing anything if my sound is already the way i want in some manner. Yesterday i was searching for a mixing limiter because i wasnt happy with the ones i had used. I ended up choosing TrackLimit, a plugin that i already had and never used, and became so happy with the results it gave me that i don't even look at more modern tools, even the brand new purelimit by sonible didnt fit my tasks they way this one did. So... I don't know if i really NEED that much.
     
  7. Papidaddy702

    Papidaddy702 Noisemaker

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    Its not the plug ins them themselves. Its the new added features, capabilities and updates. Antares for example
     
  8. dr_after

    dr_after Kapellmeister

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    When it comes to instruments I need every flavor that I can afford.
    for example - I love Juno-106 sound, so I use Roland version, Softube version, Arturia and TAL version. Oh, and even Cherry Audio. Each of these models the same instrument. But each sounds different and I need this variety. I think it is a personal preference - if you hear that plugin is useful, keep it, if it only takes a space on HDD, get rid of it. But, for me - having many plugins is also nice kick off for inspiration. I take some plugin that I haven't use for a longer time nad explore. It is rewarding, surprising and refreshing experience. And it makes music more interesting for me.
     
  9. Trurl

    Trurl Audiosexual

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    I made music I liked on a Portastudio with nothing but a Roland chorus and delay. Anything more is gravy.

    GET OFF MY LAWN!
     
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  10. mk_96

    mk_96 Audiosexual

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    Joke's on you, i clicked to rage on the clickbait itself, but i see your point.

    Personally i don't think there's anything wrong with trying new stuff, as long as you don't depend on it and remain objective, which can be a bit difficult for some people when BS marketing and tutorials/courses are a thing (even if they are not sposored, you might feel tempted to try the plugins they are using).

    And although you're talking about plugins, let's not forget that sistersite is not just about that. There's sample packs, books, sound FX, field recordings, skins, all that stuff AND that juicy AS feed. It's like window shopping before getting to the main place. You may not get anything, but it's fun to just look around.
     
  11. Lois Lane

    Lois Lane Audiosexual

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    My before and after hoarding plugins... you can decide for yourself.

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  12. Xupito

    Xupito Audiosexual

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    Don't mind me, I'm too busy to reply cause downloading the latest Kontakt libs releases...
     
  13. Droplet 2

    Droplet 2 Ultrasonic

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    rock-paper-scissors and a bottle of beer. who needs vsts? I want Clap!
     
  14. MaximalMinimal

    MaximalMinimal Ultrasonic

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    A fool with a tool is still a fool. :guru:
     
  15. tzzsmk

    tzzsmk Audiosexual

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    well, I said that to myself year ago in 2022, heck I don't even need 100 of these:

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    :chilling:
     
  16. Uprock

    Uprock Kapellmeister

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  17. hackerz4life

    hackerz4life Audiosexual

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    If i think of all the stuff floating around we only need the new softube atlantis dual chambers, like for real.
     
  18. musicfan691

    musicfan691 Noisemaker

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    we still need metatune its the best pitch shifting vst out there with retune speed -3 ive provided to MOCHA and im waiting for an answer or release
     
  19. crecy

    crecy Rock Star

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    I don't know about your methodology: how you can prove that each person who clicked-other than being interested in finding out more about a plugin-is either compulsive like you or manages their plug ins like you?
    This IS the best time to be interested in plug ins LOL, and I assume MOST members here are VERY interested.
    So on the contrary, I encourage you all to keep downloading and trying, it is not greed, it's enthusiasm.
    Some have the passion for creating devices and others for using them,
    at the end of the day, the quantity, how many you own, keep installed etc...is nobody's business,
    but if you feel guilty and need to confess, maybe their should be warez anonymous or something LOL:wink::rofl:
     
  20. M McB

    M McB Producer

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    Seem to have ruffled some feathers today haha

    But thank you everyone for your responses, it seems i'm not alone lol.

    I like the suggestion of condensing into 2-3 tools for every aspect.

    Gonna look at my collection and see what can go (already did this in November and cleared over 500 plugins) but cutting down to the barebones could be the move.

    And then if you want to bring something in, you have to take one away (unless it's unique) like a one in one out system

    Let's see where this year takes me (hopefully not refreshing DECiBELLE's AZ page)
     
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