Is there something special about ilok for Mac, different from that for PC?

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  1. senseiahn

    senseiahn Newbie

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    The current PC ilok has many cracks. soundtoys, soothe2, etc....

    But there is no news about ilok crack for Mac.

    In March 2022, the iLock for Apple Silicon was already released.

    Isn't it technically impossible to crack iLock for Mac? I have a question.
     
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  3. kingchubby

    kingchubby Rock Star

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    There's no such thing as impossible, but cracking teams or crackers for Mac are few and far between, and it's not that they might have an M1 available to test. Also, software protections, both iLok and MacOS.

    Lastly, crackers and teams get frustrated with some MacOS users' entitlement to have the software they want cracked and ready here and now.
     
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  4. clone

    clone Audiosexual

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    r2r said why they chose not to pursue a Mac cure for ilok with m1 pending and all x86 work would be waste of Human Resources to break something which would be so shortly deprecated. @kingchubby, I know it is hard to resist a snark comment at Mac users, but you should try to stick to what you know about. HNY
     
  5. Barmaley (covid edition)

    Barmaley (covid edition) Kapellmeister

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    Which company do you collect information for?
    You all know about cracks on PC, SoundToys, Soothe2, and with all this you have only 2 messages.
    Tell them that it will be unexpected for them. )))
     
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  6. D#RK M#TT#RS

    D#RK M#TT#RS Ultrasonic

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    speak as winmac user, maybe because majority (in the world) is win user so less human resource for mac, so many win power user, and for mac mostly just 'user', and cpu architecture change makes cracker need more time to study and crack mac software. so if there 7 crackers for pc, there is only 3 crackers for mac.

    i use my macbook for graphics design, audio production (make a draft project) while go out to some place or wanna leave my room, same with windows pc while i stay in my room. but in windows i demmanded to know better, because in my country most working office using windows, when i was school and college every computer is windows, most recording studio rent using windows, so windows is become habbit and i know more about windows, also pc is cheaper and more apps to choose in every category, and more cracking software on windows
     
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  7. kingchubby

    kingchubby Rock Star

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    Well, let's see, long-time user here, the sister site, and other Mac forums. Mac user since the IIe, and dealing with Mac users since then, so your assumption falls flat. Shows you how much you know. ;)

    Have a nice day!
     
  8. clone

    clone Audiosexual

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    You try to speak for crackers about people's attitudes but you only speak for yourself. since this discussion thread is about ilok, there is one team capable of even making such a decision.

    Do your unprofessional comments reflect the viewpoints of r2r? They can speak for themselves in nfo files, and they already did.
     
  9. demberto

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    You have come at the wrong place to ask the question / part of your question is already answered. Soon this will turn into a requests thread.
     
  10. ArticStorm

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    Yeah protection can look entirely different on mac and pc, sometimes methods cant be copied.

    And since apple isnt finished with migrating entirely to Apple Sillicon, R2R wrote in one NFO they wont focus on Mac reversing to much.
    If protection is the same on mac and pc for a release and a keygen will do it, a macos and windows release will be made as you can see.
     
  11. Rasputin

    Rasputin Platinum Record

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    There might be some truth that there's no way to know 100% unless R2R, AudioUtopia, et al. have explicitly stated something, but it's a pretty safe assumption that Mac cracks happen less often because of entitled Apple users. That's just the sad truth of it.

    Judging from your forum join date, I'm guessing you haven't been around long enough to know that past Mac groups have made it clear that they were leaving for the exact reason stated: Too little appreciation, and too much "mac plz" at every single release.

    And you might have also missed that phase when R2R left because of all the whining. Thankfully, they came back, but it does show that they are driven by gratitude.

    If I was cracking things, I wouldn't generally bother with Apple either. User base is smaller, constantly shifting architecture, and well... "mac plz" gets old fast, so I wouldn't be going out of my way.
     
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  12. clone

    clone Audiosexual

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    .

    on alt.binaries.sounds.utilities there was no "join date" to prejudge things with. There are of course morons, in both scenes. The original topic has to do with why ilok products on Mac remain largely undefeated. Especially when the original Unpace utility was done on Mac by xvx. no? They answered this question right before "the big wave", if I remember correctly. These are pc release notes, you must understand. They released a small batch of very old plugins and explained how nice they sound at 96khz. And then words on iLok and Mac.

    the rest is gaslighting. the one poster d#rkm#ttrs answered the original question very completely. Protections do not remain undefeated for emotional reasons like some idiot who asks "AAX?" in every post. "Takes too long to be worth the time" is a much more understandable and realistic answer we were already given. Do you not believe them? The other option is that they can't do it.(yet).
     
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  13. kingchubby

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    A little louder for @clone and the rest, thanks!
     
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    ….but how did trazor crack slate digital ana2 recently… that’s ilok protected and trazor is 95% mac.
     
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    We all know that PCs are much more affordable and cheaper, so surely there is going to be more appreciation. I do find it interesting when I see some windows plz over at sister, seeing that comment on a Moria or trazor post always makes me grin, rather devilishly
     
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  16. senseiahn

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    I also read the nfo file.
    And understand their position at the time.
    Of course, I have deep trust and respect for them.
    However, if there are just some technical difficulties, my wait may be meaningless.
    If I knew something certain, I thought it would be easy to give up.
     
  17. kingchubby

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    ANA 2 uses a keyfile authorization not iLok.
     
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    Slate edition uses ilok, while Sonic Academy version uses keyfile.
     
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  19. Cosval

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    The moral of the story (?) : let's cherish the few Mac crackers that are still working on releasing great stuff.
    And yes TRAZOR is a gem (and holds up to his name) and I hope the Mac community is treating him good through his new mode of releasing Apps.
     
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  20. kingchubby

    kingchubby Rock Star

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    “Slate Edition” posted on sister site uses key file. I downloaded it just to make sure. Check it out for yourself.

    Mad respect to TRAZOR.
     
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  21. Gyorgy Ligeti

    Gyorgy Ligeti Rock Star

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    As far as difficult protections are concerned, the matter is very complex. VM Protect, codemeter, all the various iLok protections, etc. If you take R2R away from Windows, Windows is also a wasteland like MacOS.
     
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