Most recommended plugins for mixing bass and vocals

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  1. Nehal

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    Hey guys,
    Can y'all please suggest which plugins would you recommend for mixing Jazz bass DI with heavy transients? And vocals as well. I've been thinking of going with Novatron and Silika from Kush Audio and Smash and Grab from GGD. Would really appreciate your advice and suggestions to buy on this black Friday sale. Please do help me out.

    PS. I have Soundoys stuff and waves as well.

    Edit: Also, please mention which plugins (For any use) you are picking up this Black Friday? Please do mention tat. Thanks in advance.
     
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  3. Sinus Well

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    Jazz Bass DI?

    Any clean compressor
    Any clean EQ
    Some saturation (if necessary)
    Any reverb (if necessary)

    With Soundtoys, Waves and stock plugins you are good to go! What more do you want? And why?
     
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  4. AudioMixing22

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    You cant get wrong with toneprojects Basslane pro ! my recommended for any bass line .
     
  5. executioner

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    @Sinus Well is right - stock plugins (essentials like eq/comp/gates/whatnot) + waves (analog emulations/reverb/fx etc) + Soundtoys (saturators/delays/fx etc) is more than enough. Suppose you wanna add more to your collection. In that case, the Fabfilter plugins are indispensable to me (only due to the workflow and extra flexibility), but that's the only reason I'd get it. Pro Q3 is my go-to clean eq.

    Oh, and don't forget to get all the Pultec emulations, you'll never know when you need another one! :rofl:

    Ok, in all seriousness, I do a lot of vocals, and here are some notable plugins I like and use:
    - Spectre by Wavesfactory (Sonic Enhancer/Saturator)
    - Trackspacer by Wavesfactory (Multiband Sidechain - sorta)
    - ValhallaDSP plugins (reverb/delays)
    - Soothe2 (dynamic resonance suppressor)
    - DynaRide2 (great for bass/vocals sometimes)
    - Decapitator (Saturation)
    - Any De-Esser (I like Fabfilter DS)
    - Preamps emulations if you want some warmth (maybe a 1073)
    - SSL 4k (I use Brainworx)
    - Dopamine/Fresh Air (free) are quite interesting to add some sheen
    - Unfiltered Audio Bass Mint

    Plugin Alliance is also doing a really good deal for all their plugins (Rent-to-own/One-time payment). They have a load of amps/pedals (which I think might be quite useful for you) and pretty much everything you need for mixing

    Thing is, you don't really need all these plugins - don't fall for the Black Friday marketing jumbo and get what you need only if it helps your workflow or achieves a sound you like. I just saw your tag and saw you own LPX. I use it too and their stock plugins are fricking good! Explore them too cuz owning more compressors or EQs won't make it necessarily better. :wink:
     
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  6. Trurl

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    I'm with Sinus. "Mix instrument X with our all in one X vst!!" is a blight and curse on the profession. Alan Parsons didn't need magic vsts to make Dark Side of the Moon.

    GET OFF MY LAWN, DAMN KIDS
     
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  7. M McB

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    Elysia mpressor
     
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    So, apart from all the clean stuff you have 1176, LA 2/3A, API, EMI and Neve emus, RVox, MV2 and various levelers and you don't get your vocals right? Well, in this case I recommend hardware.

    For all sorts of (real) basses I use Kush Omega N and Kusassa Cerberus for the basic sound, plus a dynamic or spectral EQ to tame some freqs.
     
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    Ive been mixing/making music for about 14 years 12 of thoe years being in logic. I still struggle a bunch with bass. I end up using waves bass rider to even out the tone. My issue is the low notes are always good and full, but then when my bassist I work with goes into the high strings it gets buired, not sonically, but but in loudness. Whats the trick to even out the volume from like 50-90hz up to 3k--5khz? Ive tried dynamice eq's and it sounds weird to me
     
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  10. Sinus Well

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    Separate the audio clip into high and low notes, split it into 2 tracks and process it differently. Then merge both onto a buss.
     
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  11. AudioMixing22

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    3-4k to me is a bit high for bass unless I've a bass solo part or slap ! anyway I'll separate the frequency as @ Sinus Well said !
     
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    Damn... never even thought of that... Good Call!!!! that would be easy to do for me. I knew someone would have a goat answer. Thnaks!
     
  13. YFManagement

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    many approaches you can take. heres few ideas
    1. Upward compression with sidechain abilities (Focus on High Notes)
    2. Saturation With Automation
    3. Fix everything else around the bass (if high notes is your problem check your instruments , drums , vocals to see that range in frequencies is being occupied or build up from other things)
    4. Using an trim plugins to automate and turn down the low notes. then compensate it by turning it up on channel
     
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  14. Baxter

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    We all use different ones that we have gathered over the course of many years. EQ, compressors, saturation, distortion, multiband distorion, exciters, chorus, duckers/SC compressors, etc. There are also multiband processes and parallel processes that are important to get a cohesive sound. A signal chain can get quite long and complex in order to get the end result one wishes. I think it's more important to try a bunch out and find your own sound and workflow. Name-dropping plugins is pretty useless IMHO. Save your money and start with freeware first. If you have Waves, Soundtoys and Kush then you are way ahead of most. Then it's just a matter of learning what you already have.
     
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    ??? And the slides? and the overlaping notes? I don`t get you. By the way I keep Aurora DSP Mammoth for all bass things and Izotope Nectar 2 for voice.
     
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    They don't need to be as loud as the low notes. The low notes are more present because there are not much instruments playing in this frequency range. And the high notes get "buried" (not really) because there are a lot of notes playing in the high frequencies.

    As always, composition and sound design (amp settings) is the key here. :yes:
     
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    It is not about every single string stroke. It's simply that if the range between the lowest and highest note played is too wide, you can spend ages automating everything to get a balanced result. If that's the case, I separate the ranges, do my levels automation, and then process both tracks individually or on a bus, if it is to affect everything. It's really not that complicated. And as always, it depends on the context.
     
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    Melodyne! It will volume level the bass with one click! Do it before as much processing as you can.
     
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  19. Nehal

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    Thank you so much for your replies, guys. Now if y'all can please mention which plugins (For any use) you are picking up this Black Friday? Please do mention tat. Thanks in advance.
     
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    You're a necessary person in this forum. The anwser about the consoles in the other thread i created made my life much simplier. In fact, after that, im keeping the smallest bag of plugins i can, and making music better than ever. Thank you!!!
     
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