Does anyone know a plugin that does phase limiting? Acustica Space Control was the only one I've found its pretty expensive so looking for any other options out there.

 

You can use a M/S compressor , compress the S, or sideminder .

BTW, do you use REAPER? I've made a free solution.

 

What's phase limiting? I'd never heard of it till now and Google didn't provide any clues.

 

Acustica will probably have a black Friday sale. Phase limiter on AA is the first time I've seen, it's an enigma because too much kills the stereo but the just right. Bear with the learning curve.

 

Raising Jake Studio's SideMinder series, as junh1024 already proposed.
Also "phase limiter" is a very incorrect term, but I guess nobody wants to hear the technicalities.
I personally came to use mid-side-capable compressors instead of a "width limiter", yet again like junh1024 proposed, except both mid and side (not just side) need to be compressed to achieve a consistent width. Yet again a technicality. Oh well.

 

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I know who Junh is but not you. This plugin is supposed to address all the stuff you said. best

 

Didn't want to offend or undermine anyone. Just to give a bit more details.

 

Please understand I'm not offended, maybe I'm the one who paid full price and am letting you know

 

So wait...phase limiting is another way of saying mid-side compression like you can do with Fabfilter Pro C-2, Waves PuigChild compressor, Internet's MS EQ Comp, and so on?

 

There's no such thing as "phase limiting", this term makes no sense.
There's a "width limiting", which is dynamically changing the side channel loudness so stereo channel never goes "too wide", i.e. into phase cancellation when summing to mono. So yeah, kind of like a mid-side automatic gain riding.
Compressing mid and side channels separately yields better results, but for a quick fix SideMinder will do.

 

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I am a little with you on this. Is it a Football Melon or a Watermelon with some new name?

Required Whales and graphs link: https://dosits.org/science/advanced-topics/phase/

Things like this are why Sea Snake Studios has such popular (and often justified) videos with opinions about this. He actually ended up liking the plugin "Reso", but he made a point of talking about plugins he gets to review that address problems, that are "invented" to sell stuff. They exist but now have a fancy new name for the same old stuff.

 

Well there is this and it's free although I have no idea what it's like:-

https://vstwarehouse.com/limiter/page/2/

 

"This rack will allow you to move your sounds and instruments around in your mix while also giving you parallel control over your phasing and or correlation of your mix."

 

Yes I read that but why you would need it is beyond me. Surely each instrument should be given it's correct placement before you ever get to the mixdown stage, and as for phasing issues well I would not leave that to the mixing stage either.

 

A M/S compressor you can get really cheap: put any comp between an M/S-encoder and an M/S-decoder and voila. MSED from Voxengo can do the en-/decode thing, if you are on REAPER there are JSFX build in for that. Use less CPU than MSED.

 

You wouldn't if you realized that this plugin is doing a process that many other do, too. If it was called "Phase Correlation", or another term; it would get lumped in with all the other tools. Few people would buy it, and we wouldn't be talking about it. You already got my point.

 

I did indeed

 

The only scenario I can think of is mastering a stereo track where just sometimes an instrument comes up that is too wide, especially in a specific freq range. I don't know of any other way to tame this dynamically (apart from automating an MB imager, that is).

 

The only scenario where I can imagine where someone with your knowledge would not come up with a solution? Maybe it is a useful tool, but the marketing is not clear. At best.

It's because you have never tried it before. Either a) using this name for the process. or b) because it was Unnecessary to start with. or c) an Invented Problem.

How is this really different than a sidechained m/s compressor and tool like an Imager? You'd have to use a Correlation Meter also, I am guessing.

I think you'd find a workaround without buying this thing. Or at least figure out whatever "magic whizzbang" things it does inside.

 

Pro-Q 3 in mid-side mode. Any dynamic EQ with mid-side mode will do, but Pro-Q 3 has a powerful automatic mode.
You better do such things in the mix if you can, of course. I don't need to tell you that.