macOS Ventura is out, shall we upgrade or wait?

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  1. JMOUTTON

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    The Ferrari analogy is silly. I don't get it either. Who wants a computer that is harder to use, spends 80% of it's time in the shop because it's not running and tries to kill you whenever you use it because you are too dumb to know your own limits.

    There is some code optimization and kernel memory management updates that push things through and dump faster if you are running Apple Silicone and running Apple software you might notice. If you are still on Intel the efficiency gains will be barley noticeable if at all and any performance gain will be cannibalised by the new deamons and eye candy, overall it is probably a net loss of performance unless you aggressively keep your system clean in which case for all your effort you will break even.


    I am certain someone somewhere has run some benchmarks, and there is some hardening, security and privacy updates if you travel with your mac and keep sensitive stuff on it. If you don't need that stuff I wouldn't be in a hurry. If it's working well don't mess with it till you need to or have to because you want something that is only compatible with the newer OS.
     
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  2. Olymoon

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    Is it possible for you all to avoid discrediting other members while stating your opinion?
    There is no necessity to use words like "troll" or "sissy incell"...
    So please, explain your reasons without disqualifying other members.
     
  3. Justin-Cydeher

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    How?
     
  4. spncart

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    YESSSSS

    Also actually there's a lot of small optimizations that I didn't pay attention to in the first place, anyway overall with M1/M2 macOS went from amazing to super amazing. Loving the way they matched it with the iOS interface somehow.

    Can't wait for the M3 gen to come out next year and splash 8k bucks on 48-core CPU, 128-core GPU cores, 128GB RAM and 12TB SSD

    Daddy already said he'll pay for it :rofl:
     
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  5. Justin-Cydeher

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    12tb std? (Audio sex translation) my avatar likes it
     
  6. Justin-Cydeher

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    Im just hoping i get help with basic step guides to edit hosts, deep code singing, security or anything i need to run my system smoother..you dont get any help on apple sites, just apple fanboy paid trolls who say your crazy if you need to code sign but not uf your a developer.
     
  7. Scarlett

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    Installing Ventura gave me issuea, had to restart my macbook. Then after it finishing, I noticed my wifi had issues, then it stoppes working altogether. I baby it like no other thing and this happens...
    Downloaded the whole installer on my OC, I hope I can fix it by reinstalling...
     
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    I m Fed up with all that BS Mac OS versions its THE MAIN reason why R2R and other famous team dont do releases for MACS
    Apple like to take money from people the las iphone is a shame The Mac studio With good components a Joke
    They must say to others audio vendors You see ? There are less cracks on macs
    Pfffff
     
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  9. spncart

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    Hahaha. No luck I guess. Everything working fine here, everything is faster including Ableton, indexing and many things.
     
  10. spncart

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    Yeah well we Mac users are elite, we can afford buying uncracked vsts the same way we buy Maseratis and expensive MacBooks.

    I guess R2R are primarily geared toward third-world country users like India etc. where everything is so expensive if you live there. And they use PCs there so...
     
  11. spncart

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    If you need help with such basic operations you don't deserve to be a Mac owner. Please sell it and buy a PC instead, you're embarrassing us.
     
  12. spncart

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    Hmmm wait... no. Like we explained already, Ventura is just Monterey 2.0, no change. It has nothing to with migrating from Catalina etc. to ARM a couple years. Back then yeah I waited a bit until the developers came up with the right upgrades, it took some time. But today is completely different, everything working perfectly on the spot on my end.

    Also it's 'lose' my time not 'loose' (another verb) my time. Only French or Spanish/Italian people would write 'loose' my time lol funny
     
  13. Justin-Cydeher

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    The most important things with upgrading is that none of your apps seize to work,
    ventura has been the smoothest upgrade ever for me, i learned one little secret Apple accidentally revealed, you must give the terminal full disc access in order to deep sign, edit hosts etc…i myself still has no clue about doing any of these things but i do want to move large files on to external drives like 99% of users refusing to pay $450 more for a $100 512gb ssd soldered unto a m1 imac motherboard.

    ventura positive list
    -40gb free space
    -continuity allows iphone to be used as webcam flawlessly, no latency
    -tid faster

    negative list
    -need to give terminal full disc access
    -pirated app lovers need to re install, use deep dinging, edit host list
    -changed are reset upon new OS updates

    the system is very complete if you ask vloggers who love their iphone pro cameras, composers, video editors and animators., Monterey was ok, Ventura is great.
     
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  14. spncart

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    "need to give terminal full disc access"
    "pirated app lovers need to re install, use deep dinging, edit host list"

    what kind of BS is that?

    I have 700 cracked apps and VSTs on my Ventura M1 and didn't need to reinstall anything, nor use terminal, permissions reset, codesigner or anything. Permissions are unchanged from my Monterey setup, actually no setting at all has changed, as you would expect from Apple (that's the main advantage for me vs. PCs). iLok working perfectly too for the few legit plugins I own (obviously, same machine ID, so all the same).

    It's working all the same as before. Ventura is just Monterey 2.0, no change at all in the code, just a few minor aesthetic changes and yeah some disk space optimization that's all.
     
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  15. spncart

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    "changed are reset upon new OS updates"

    not true, fake news.
     
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    LOL yep.. I honestly don't think I have any k'd plugins nowadays on here but all my legit iLok, Steinberg, Plugin Alliance, anything else using any sort of authorization all stayed up and running from one OS to the next. No serial numbers needed to be re-entered, nothing reinstalled. Just like it did when I went from Big Sur to Monterey, Catalina to Big Sur, etc. Hell, even old Absynth 5 still works here. Just had to wait for the install to finish and it was back to work in Cubase 12 as soon as it was done.
     
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    I've been using free NDI Tools with NDI HX iOS apps (yes they were also free back in the day) to do that for years :chilling:
     
  18. spncart

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    Yep and by the way it was the fastest OS update ever for me (no more than a few minutes) compared to the previous ones (I've been using Mac since 2006 or something), which seems to indicate this really only was a slight optimization + bringing apps in line with iOS rather than a brand new OS code design.
     
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  19. Justin-Cydeher

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    Did you have to give the terminal full disk access in ventura cause i know i had too and that alone tells you something about anything you previously installed, im not talking about cracked software (although this site is a twilight zone in that area), just i stall processes and apps that need certain access will not have it if you restore the system or upgrade\ now.
     
  20. Justin-Cydeher

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    You know that its trolling to post comments when you DONT KNOW or have an answer to a thread ?

    According to you, anyone who contacts tech support or needs help with apps on the sista site should not own a mac?
    Funny cause apple says anyone who does know and modifies their host, code signs apps or simply uses little snitch should gave their macs bricked which is the exact thing ppl dont want.
     
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