Thanks for the info. Do you have any good go-to sources for Reaper customization tutorials? Any great video channels or forums that are comprehensive? I'm all for taking the time to customize the default settings if it makes my life easier down the road. ;)

Thanks again for the reply.

 

check these youtube channels out they got everything you need to know REAPER Mania, IDDQD Soundm, Wodzu Beats, Let's Talk About Reaper, The REAPER Blog

 

I'm just about to pull the trigger on Studio One 6 Upgrade. Fixes a lot of my bug bears I've had and
Looks really Good.

Videos are here

 

I'm curious as to why you would want to upgrade? It seems like you have a really solid selection of DAWs, based on your previous post. What do you see about S1 v6 that seems appealing? I've been exclusively using S1 since v3 as my primary DAW and I don't see anything noteworthy about v6. I'm sure you read my initial post, but this underwhelming lack of meaningful features in S1 v6 was the impetus for this entire thread.

Without watching it, it looks like this video is about whether to use Pro Tools or Studio One. If that's the case, Studio One is definitely going to be better, but with all the DAWs you currently own, I'm curious as to what problem you feel v6 fixes that is not addressed in any other DAW you currently use? Version 6's main updates are GUI Customization, Lyrics (why???), Video and functional updates that have existed in software like Pro Tools for nearly 20 years. Any insight you could provide on your decision would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

 

Cubase pro of course !!!!

 

Thanks for the input. Any reasons in particular that you prefer Cubase Pro over all other DAWs?

 

Lol the real reason is that I've used it for 30 years and I know it inside out. But, it does seem to work quite well for both sound and MIDI editing. I can't really give a good comparison to anything else out there though because I don't like anything else and I've never felt the need to learn anything else. I've tried them to see but been sick of them all after 10 minutes. I like the layout and workflow of Cakewalk. If it's any consolation though Bob Katz said he thinks Cakewalk sounds good, and that's a big deal imo. Although back when he said that there might have been a difference in how different DAWs sound but I highly doubt there is now.

 

They all have their advantages, disadvantages and annoying things, but for me it always is Cubase Pro. This keeps fitting the best with my work flow and the way I think and work. Since that last 2 updates I have to say I experience much less problems (crash, every stuck et cetera). I am pretty happy user of this DAW.

 

Reaper seems a good choice for you. But be aware that the Score is good to be edited and so, but not really printable, specially if you write fast lines with a lot of notes, ie: fast brass lines . I had to export scores to an external program and edit them there, as it would be unreadable otherwise. All the other functions are really great, it's light on cpu and Cockos policy is completely oriented to their users.
Also, it's completely free to try as much as you want.

 

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I Think the best Way to Go is to Test out the DAW's which you consider switching to and find out which DAW fits best for you and your Workflow & Equipment. (We are in the Situation nowadays that most of the DAW are available to Test which was not the Case when i started making Music back in the Late 2000`s also there is High Quality Education Content for each DAW.)

I'm Using FL Studio with Reason as a Plugin for Beatmaking and build my Equipment (FL Keys 37 & Akai Fire) up arround it (I'm used to the FL Step Sequencer & Piano Roll and Reason for it's flexibility in Sound Design and the Rack Feeling). To record Vocals i prefer Cubase.

Most Important is that you are having Fun making Music, not in which DAW you make it.

 

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I would say stay with Studio One or else Reaper. Reaper is no money grabbing company.

 

The gripes about the necessity to upgrade Cubase are likely more driven by FOMO than anything. If we are talking about a major revision like VST3 support or the move from dongle to dongleless, that's one thing, but to knock it because they couldn't resist "having" to upgrade, says more about the individual.

I have found that Cubase is the king when it comes to midi-based music. Sure, it can do anything any other professional-grade DAW can, but Steinberg has been iterating on the midi sequencing workflow since the late 80s, I've been using Cubase for almost 20 years, and Cubase 12 (Pro) is just an outstanding representation of how far they have come.

I'm biased, I suppose, but I don't believe that Cubase is the right tool for everyone or every project. For example, I enjoy using Bitwig as well, not only for sketching ideas but also for things I can't really accomplish in Cubase. It has modulation and routing available on pretty much everything, and its Reaktor-like Grid which can also be routed to or from other vsts for all kinds of experimentation.

Cubase is on sale until October 3rd I believe.

 

Well major stuff that I've been bitching about for ages. like
NEW! Sends on FX Channels, allowing the output signal of one effect to be sent to another.
NEW! Sidechain audio input for virtual instruments
NEW! Bus, FX and Cue Mix sends now have the option to link panning to the channel pan control. Cue Mix sends provide independent link options for Volume and Pan.
NEW! Micro view controls for third-party plug-ins
NEW! Track and Channel Icons
NEW! Spot option for Events offers a number of options for positioning Events on the timeline based on event attributes such as start/end points or their original timecode position.

Also the global Video track looks awesome..

I agree with Olymoon if you're not in the Protools world its a great option for many.
Studio One is most certainly trying to pilfer the Profools market and its now owned by Fender which to me (based upon other DAW buyouts over history, aside from apple & emagic, is worrying.

 

I've started with FL back in 2005 or 2006, not sure exactly, and since then tried most of the DAWs just for fun because I love playing with stuff and making music in my spare time (I have a digital agency) because music is my passion and now I am switching almost full time to it.
Cubase was always something I didn't really want to get into because I thought it's to hard to learn, but in the other hand I knew I will eventually get my hands on it just to find if my "fear of Cubase" is justified.

Switched from S1 4.5, and the main push was Mixdown Academy, where I've learned how really powerful CUBASE is in just a few days following the course well structured lessons. https://mixdown.online/en/

Reaper was also a great experience especially with the customization freedom, but the midi and notation experience in CUBASE is what makes me happy all day. I am leaning towards Orchestral music as I get older, and that's where CUBASE is really handy, especially with some templates like: https://www.poundsound.uk/products/

BITWIG seems tempting, and I will try it for sure in the near future. I am a sucker for nice interface, and that's where BITWIG and Cakewalk are really on point targeting my own preferences just like Logic Pro, which I unfortunately due to avoiding Apple because of the well known reasons - will most likely never have, except if I mount the virtual MAC (HACKINTOSH) on my powerful PC.

CUBASE you may buy for as little as (sometimes) $200 if you watch closely here:
https://vi-control.net/community/forums/for-sale-music-gear-classifieds-free-service.66/
( https://vi-control.net/community/se...t&c[child_nodes]=1&c[nodes][0]=66&o=relevance )
or
https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=43
or
https://www.knobcloud.com/

Regarding updates pricing, that's not a big deal if you are patient enough to wait for sales every now and then.

That was my 1 cent.

Best,
DJ

 

Depends on genre but for me recording real acoustic instruments/musicians I've opted for Reaper 6 for tracking (Client has full access to Reaper and can take full session, stems, whatever they need, windows, mac both supported) and Mixbus 7 for stem mixing, Reaper already having done the heavy lifting!

 

It's best to test every modern DAW first.How is the workflow, do I get along with it, are there updates, is the DAW stable.

I would say you can also use several DAW's for different purposes. One main DAW for recording and mixing.
I use Studio One. For me, the workflow and stability was the reason to buy. Cubase, Ableton and Reaper are also a good choice.

Since I have a 4K monitor, I play old 32 plugins with "Synapse Audio - Orion 32 bit version,
64 bit plugins that are not expandable play in Cakewalk - Sonar.

 

I committed to Cubase in 2022 due to an audio engineer friend raving about it. He told me some things that really opened my eyes, feature-wise.

I really like Cubase, but it runs heavy. If you have an old CPU don't even think about it. I'm using an i7-8700 and it runs okay but by the end of a project it really grinds to a halt.
This pretty much ended my "honeymoon phase" with Cubase. I'm still committed to it, but i've become open to new DAWs again

I was a Logic / Mac user for 8 years before i switched to windows in 2019, and honestly i miss it (Logic). Not because it's "better" but because i knew it back-to-front. And that's really the only thing that matters, your workflow. Find the DAW that feels intuitive to you and just master it. It doesn't matter what it is. Cubase, Logic, Studio One, Ableton, Reaper, they all have their strengths in different areas. Ableton seems most intuitive from a music production standpoint. Reaper is the best performer as far as light coding that allows you to use the most plugin instances (but it's a bit ugly/clunky to use for me personally). Cubase/Logic/S1 are all pretty similar at the end of the day as far as layout. Cubase seems the most robust to me but it comes at the cost of resources. Logic is probably the sleekest / most elegant in terms of simplicity-to-results ratio. And S1 falls somewhere in the middle of those. For me the choice really comes down to Ableton vs Reaper vs The Big 3, since Ableton is so different to the others and Reaper is such a different ethos. There's no right or wrong answer.

 

a DAW is a DAW, it comes down to workflow and preferance, no DAW is better than others despite what other might say, if cost is no option then live suite would be my choice, i know alot of producers have changed to live because its workflow.

 

I'm using Reaper as DAW and Energy XT 1.4 for live looping, clips etc. yes, Energy Xt is 32 bit, but nobody cares when the resulting sound is the same of the latest upgraded 64 bit best DAW in the world and for audio/midi clip launching is perfect.
What I don't like on most paid DAWs is their upgrade prices and on most of them I can't use Multiple audio inputs on plugins such as TB Equalizer 4 that allows to sidechain each band with a different audio input and for that purpose Reaper is perfect and also other Freeware DAWs such as Bandlab Sonar works on multiple inputs sidechain. Cubase only does it with its internal EQ. Also i like the startup speed of Reaper and Energy XT (this one starts in 1 second, like opening a folder) and I don't like the stress generated for example by Cubase when you have to open it. I'm over 50 old, so i come from the age of multitrack tape machines, my first DAW has been a Roland DM-80 system and i like the power of today's DAWs, but I'm also aware that good results can be obtained in many different ways and knowledge is the best friend to avoid wasting time on superfluous upgrades and GAS everywhere.

 

Use. Whatever. Fits. Your. Workflow. And Your. Budget.