Problem with SF2 sampling.

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  1. pres7on

    pres7on Newbie

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    Hi, people.

    I've been sampling pianos using ''Extreme Sample Converter". I can extract samples and make them SF2 but when I play them with my midi keyboard, the sound cut just as I lift the finger, they don't have the ''acoustic'' sound of key release, it cuts just like it was a synth. I know there is a way to do/fix it because some other SF2/SFZ pianos have that attribute. Please if you know how to do it, you'll save my life.

    Edit: I use a a Korg Microkey61 and an Android phone with a SF2player app (Fluidsynth), using an OTG cable and a midi cable.
     
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  3. BEAT16

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    What midi keyboard are you using, please exact name? Do you use a softare to play the SoundFonts?

    Take this: sforzando is a free SFZ player. Simple but powerful for advanced users

    sforzando is a free, highly SFZ 2.0 compliant sample player. Advanced sample hobbyists now have a powerful tool to experiment and share instruments without relying on proprietary formats. sforzando has only one instrument slot; no fancy UI, effects or mixers. Every tweak has to be done at the SFZ file level, no cheating!sforzando is also a name given for a sudden change in music dynamics which, in musical notation, is represented by the “sfz” symbol. www.plogue.com/products/sforzando.html
     
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  4. xorome

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    I don't know anything about Extreme Sample Converter, but you'll need to add envelope controls to your .sfz file if you don't want your samples to instantly cut off. Here's an example from the top of one of my .sfz files, if you already have a <global> and/or <control> section, you'll need to merge this in somehow (make a backup of your .sfz file):

    <global>
    ampeg_attack=0.002
    ampeg_sustain=0
    ampeg_release=0.002
    ampeg_attack_oncc80=0.5
    ampeg_hold_oncc81=2
    ampeg_decay_oncc82=10
    ampeg_sustain_oncc83=100
    ampeg_release_oncc84=5

    <control>
    set_cc7=100
    set_cc10=64

    set_cc80=0
    set_cc81=0
    set_cc82=0
    set_cc83=127
    set_cc84=12

    label_cc7=Volume
    label_cc10=Pan

    label_cc80=Attack
    label_cc81=Hold
    label_cc82=Decay
    label_cc83=Sustain
    label_cc84=Release

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  5. Itzehoe

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    If you sample using ESC the soundfonts sound cut. Even if you use loop points or super samplers like Tx16Wx.

    you should use ESCs brother product „samplelord“ and set the length of the notes in ESC as Long as you can

    another solution would be to put delay and reverb onto it
     
  6. fiction

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    If I remember correctly, FMJsoft Awave gives you more control over envelope settings in the exported SF2 files.
     
  7. Itzehoe

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    Using awave to sample (not convert) instruments is a pain. You will need some extra tools, too.

    nowadays there are more modern solutions (samplerobot, python scripts, fl studio, to name a few)
     
  8. pres7on

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    Thanks for replying. I use a a Korg Microkey61 and an Android phone with a SF2player app (Fluidsynth), using an OTG cable and a midi cable. I've got Sforzando in my pc and they also sound cut! I'll have to learn to modify sfz files.
     
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    Thanks for asnwering! Do you know if I can modify the SFZ files with a software and save it so when I convert them to SF2 they keep these changes?
     
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    Bro!, I'll try it for sure. Thanks.
     
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    Thanks! I'll try it.
     
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    Thanks!. I'll try it.
     
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    Vienna Soundfont Editor
    www.synthfont.com/Downloads.html
    Vienna Soundfont Editor.jpg
     
  14. pres7on

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    OMG THANK YOU ALL BRO'S I COULD WITH AWAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  15. Xupito

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    Wow, nice. Awave is one of the most ancient and venerable sf2/sfz sample editors.
     
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