Maschine 2 vst3 more than 16 midi channel ?

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  1. VincentCool

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    Same as topic ,
    can Maschine 2 vst3 more than 16 midi channel ?
     
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    midi only has 16 channels per port.
    FE: in FL studio you can set a midi channel assign a port to it. so in theorie you could set an unlimited amount of midi channels but it will always be limited to 16 midi channels per port
     
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  5. VincentCool

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    can i have 2 port or 3 port?
    bsc many Maschine 2 project have more than 16 midi channel link to DAW

    i search this result b4,but many say more than 16 midi channel is come with VST3
    but when VST3 come is same to vst2,only 16 midi channel...
     
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    There are only 16 channels, which is the MIDI standard.
    Which DAW do you use? Windows or Mac?
     
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  7. VincentCool

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    Windows Studio One 5,
    can 2 port or 3 port?
     
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    All machine users are very sad that the machine is limited to 16 channels.
    Some users then open several instances of the machine.
    Studio One is not very midi friendly. It may be that these projects were made with another DAW.
     
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    All modern DAWs support many ports (sometimes, many ports for same physical controller - ie N.I. Komplete Kontrol S or Arturia BeatStep Pro controllers - in my case), but some ports are dedicated and can't are used. Virtual MIDI (such rtpMIDI, LoopBe) also are considered as "port".

    Each port (for MIDI input or MIDI output) can handle 16 MIDI channels.
     
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    How To Route Maschine Into Studio One


    Inputs
    After clicking on Inputs you can define, which inputs of your audio interface are used for the four stereo inputs of MASCHINE. Select the inputs of your audio interface in the right column by mouse click: A drop-down menu with all available inputs appears. The selection made here determines, for example, which which inputs can be used when sampling external sources, for example. external sources.

    Outputs
    If you click on Outputs, a list appears with the 16 stereo outputs of MASCHINE: In the column on the right, you can you can assign them to the outputs of your audio interface. outputs. Click into the fields of the right column to select the desired outputs from the drop-down menu.
     
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    the only hardware sequencer I have ever seen that did more than one set of midi at a time is the mpc2000. one model has midi a/b and each supply 16 channels.
     
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  12. VincentCool

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    i think still no have solution more than 16 channel midi and more than 1 port for Maschine 2 link to DAW
    but really thank you for everyone are helping, really Grateful~
     
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    Unfortunately, there is no solution to route more than 16 MIDI channels into Maschine except if you start more instances of Maschine in your DAW, since Maschine only supports one 16 ch MIDI port, which is nothing weird. As clone said, only some hardware sequencers support more than one MIDI ports and I can also think of MPC, Akai samplers and E-mu Samplers which support anywehere from 2-4 MIDI ports. Kontakt supports 4 MIDI ports and that's pretty cool.
     
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    Also, be emphatic and compassive with NI since, you know, they can't program proper vst3 plugins yet
    They've their hands full throwing money at Michael Jarre and probably Jacen "God Particle" Joshua

    Cut them some slack, for chrissake! :rofl:
     
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    E-Mu samplers do not have two "banks" of Midi like the Akai MPC when they are "Stock". I can look, but if any additional Upgrades exist with a second set of Midi ports; they will be nearly impossible to find not installed in a machine already. Does the External Monitor/Keyboard update also include new Midi Ports? Not that I remember. It was AES/EBU Digitals that way. Or the other expansion is the ADAT I/O Card expansion, This adds 2 sets of ADAT Optical Ins and Outs; but again does not expand the midi ports. I'd skip this route, unless you really know what you are getting into. The S2800/S3000 also do not, as stock anyway.
     
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    This section about S1 is completely wrong... Not sure where you got this "A User" quote from but you can send multiple midi channels to multitimbral instruments. You do need to use multiple tracks but the midi can be sent to a single instance of an instrument. S1 has completely decoupled the concept of tracks and channels (whether audio or midi) thus tracks should not be thought of the same in S1 as they are in other DAWs.

    Using Kontakt as an example. If I had horns on midi channel 1 and strings on channel 2 I would set the midi input of the original track to channel 1, then add another instrument track and change the midi output to the original kontakt but make the midi channel 2. It would be the same for Maschine or any other multitimbral instrument. There are additional steps to route the audio channels from maschine but thats beyond the scope of this point. Attaching a screenshot to shot to make this easier to follow.

    I doubt you where intentional being misleading, I get that sometimes people just know their main daw better than others as there's so much that can become a variable.
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  17. VincentCool

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    yes ,kontakt can have 4 midi port,but Maschine really need more than 1 midi port link to DAW.
     
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    What are you actually trying to do? Because it sounds like you are falling into the trap of reinventing the wheel. Why have no other Maschine users discovered this; what is so unique about your usage scenario?
     
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    Opcode 8-PortSE is the only H/W I have used that has 8x sets of 16 MIDI channels simultaneously.
    I do not think there are compatible drivers with it's software for any O/S since around 2010.
    There are still only 16 MIDI channels but it cleverly routed them on 8 individual paths with 16 in each and the latency was unnoticeable - something ridiculous under 1ms. You had up to 128 MIDI channels simultaneously available.
    However, it was designed for chaining 8x external MIDI instruments (or more if on same MIDI channel path), not internal MIDI ones.
     
  20. VincentCool

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    https://i.ibb.co/GQX3MbM/Screenshot-2022-05-24-121411.png

    i want fullly control Maschine with my DAW,
    all midi edit from my DAW,not inside Maschine.
    you can mute midi and faster edit ,view all midi channel at once and many good edit you can do at DAW.
    but when the Maschine project have more than 16 midi channel ,
    you need recreat many Maschine,and more CPU usage etc problem
     
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