Where there is design, there is a Designer.

 

Wow many responses here we go

1..Frist the universe is a hyper compressed file ,it is unzipping ,this is what we perceive as time ,now can it unzip in some computer or it can unzip in some hyper dimensional space .this makes the most sense since it becomes more complex as "time" passes ,when it should have been the most complex at the beginning ,stars are the unzipping engine of the compressed "universe "file. It is like dropping a cup ,it smashes but when you go to pick it up it is a more complex more useful cup

2..the Universe is a Mandelbrot set

Deepest Mandelbrot Set Zoom Animation ever - a New Record! 10^275
each repeating mathematical branch a slightly different
Planck constant ,covering covering every possible decision
and particle location that could exist ,the multi-verse,
nothing is actually "real" just a manifestation of the underlying
mathematics

3..Collision Universe
you are standing on the outside in a space,,,
bubbles of energy, think of the creation of the universe as a collision imagine two bubbles that collide together
the initial collision looks like a point from the inside, this creates matter/energy and two universes the initial over lap of the bubbles is cosmic inflation
the continued overlap is the expansion of the universe we define this expansion as the speed of light
photons do not go anywhere they ride this expansion,(like a surfer on the ocean wave) from a photons point of view it has never moved
Gravity is the interference pattern created as inflation expansion energy travels through dense expansion energy (matter) this creates the force we call gravity constant acceleration
dark energy, increased rate of expansion is the continued over lap of the two spheres imagine in your mind as the spheres over lap the volume constantly increases dark matter, is the other universe that is created in the initial collision yes two universes out of phase with each other we see its gravity pattern created as inflation expansion energy in the same space
the Question is not what is the speed of light but why does light go anywhere in the first place
the double slit experiment is not about the particle but the underlying energy field it rides on

4.. the I Dream of Genie creation ,,where a god has the power to, just, will any thing to happen
no rhyme or reason , good, bad , live, die ,kill, be killed ,none of it matters ,just a whim ,exist one second
un-exist the next ,you would never know the difference and a
God would not care

5. Little child blowing bubbles ,,a little child of unimaginable power ,not knowing the universes
they are creating as the bubbles float away ,some exist for a second ,,some exist for a minute
from the Childs point of view,, but inside the perception is 100's of billion of years have passed
the child cannot interfere with the bubbles because for a God to interfere, destroys the creation

6.. I do not believe in the big bang theory,,,,, you would need the big foreplay theory before it. As every woman knows the odds on that happening,,,,,,,,,, is greater than the odds of the creation of the universe

Now as to A God ,if one exists, the god cannot interfere with the creation ,like a soap bubble of creation,
interference would destroy it . The universe is on a knifes edge ,put one electron out of place and the
whole thing would collapse . I believe there might be a supreme all powerful being , but since it cannot
interfere in the creation or it would destroy it ,the point of a god does not matter , God does not pick
sides in anything or anyone ,,IT Can't. Now to all the religious books ,that is just a control system
just like today ,,the you will get your reward in heaven keep slaving away serf ,,yes I am going to Hell
living in my big castle ,banging your daughters ,eating my fill of food ,you will get your reward in the
end ,,bunch of morons.
The greatest weapon they use against us in western society is our empathy and compassion ,,we need to help these people ,protect the old , OH' protect the children, Protect the LQGBT<XYZ, works every time and then they rely on the best sin of all vanity ,,I am such a good person ,I am so kind ,I am so understanding
just remember this, there are other humans out there that just want to cut our throats and take our
stuff

I believe we are, just a bad DNA patch job, on some poor hominoid, by some aliens and the universe is
far more interesting than we can comprehend . We are like an ant mound ,ants come, ants go , ants search
for food , ants fight ,same crap everyday ,over and over again. Maybe we are, some farm, the crop is
humans, that is why they are not concerned about how much damage we do, My guess is that human anus
is a delicacy to the aliens ,they are just waiting for the crop, using up all the resources, to become big enough, to be harvested. Now do not take this, in the wrong way ,,it is the only reason, I can come up with ,
for having 7.8 billion assholes all in the same place .

 

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If you believe we are floating on a rock around a huge fireball then by all means isn't anything possible? I have been around long enough to appreciate anyone's beliefs. If it serves ,brings you peace an makes you a better person . Do what you do

 

This question actually has a simple answer - the onus of proof is on the person making the claim, otherwise they're fooling themselves and trying to fool others. Assertion isn't evidence. You can't prove a negative in this context, I don't have to produce evidence that your imagined god isn't real.

Is there a god? Who knows?

 

this and other logical fallacies are the reason i dont even believe in intelligent hoomans

 

god of the gap
the believers who re-wrote "a" god story didnt know anything about the universe, they dealt with cows and disease and sheep... which is further proof that all religion is manmade

 

you know what if there is a god let hem be it doesn't matter to me i just do the right thing and try to make a place for my self in this world

 

btw my religion is music and money M&M

 

This is a huge topic to even attempt to discuss.
Each person will believe in their head and heart what they want to believe.

Scientifically, the two ounces of lost weight when a person dies is hypothesised to be the soul leaving the body. If a person believes we have a soul then they believe in something. Atheists or nihilists believe in no God or anything and when you die, you go into nothingness. They say they do not believe but to believe you go to nothingness is still believing in the existence of nothingness.
Christians, Buddhists, Hindi, Muslims and people of all faiths believe in an afterlife.

Why did I write this? For the simple second statement "Each person will believe in their head and heart what they want to believe."

Nobody living today has died permanently and come back. Therefore, nobody knows for sure other than there are only two options - Faith or no Faith.
cheers

 

Sure, (a) god exists.

Now, whether god manifests itself as physical, ethereal, supernatural, psychological, delusional, linguistical, cultural, and/or traditional entity or form is left as an exercise to the reader.

 

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God belonged to a time when the reasons for many phenomena were unclear or unknown, and human beings tried to overcome their fears and feelings of despair by creating the concept of God.

If there is no fear, despair, and feeling of disability, no God will be needed and we can even allege it doesn't exist.

 

So do I.

 

i believe in the superior god (allah) who created everything with the help of angels
we live in a world today joking and high fiving everything bad in our lives

just think for a min here ,all past 3 religions that our god applied for humanity
(for jews,christians and muslims ) do call for peace and good deeds,no stealing ,no killing ,no raping ,no invading

believing in god can save your soul by installing alot of NOs in your brain like NO cheating, NO murdering, NO raping, NO invading
these rules applies to human nature automatically once he believes theres are some lines that cant be crossed
otherwise you would be in trouble whether its laws applied by people or laws applied by god

people seems to forget (intentionally)that our god/allah sent his messengers and prophets
to guide the people to spread the good word and create a good peaceful communities and to change their way of worshiping materials instead of real god (back at those olden time people were worshiping stars /statues/fire /animals for a long time so it was hard for them
to change their belief since their fathers and grandfathers were worshiping the same (and that alone led to wars
between tribes and with time changes the war split between the religions ,and that let to invasions and taking territories
with blood mayhem and torture on their way to build empires and nations

but even those once great empires also fell and burned because they ''went too far '' and one can ask himself
how the romans fall ,how the ottmans fall ? because they went too far in their crusades of buthery and massacre

everything was planned by god/allah who showed us the way to live and we end up doing the opposite

if god tell us to help each other in build a better community (without spreading shit and insult his religon )
then we woudnt write stupid things like reading instagram comments and reply with negative posts
and hit like on fashionistas nude pictures )

stay humble ,help your family ,and spread good words and god will keep you safe

 

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Just leaving this here...

 

Here are my thoughts:

1) After thousands of years of human civilizations, NOBODY, and i want to repeat this: NOBODY has proven in a SOLID way beyond doubt (thus empirically) that any one of the thousands of gods we have had through History exists. Then, believing in anyone or more of them is absolutely irrational. Many people has had and has this FEELING about a god. But experience shows us that sensations, feelings and intuitions are not the most trustable way. Empirical Science is.

2) There are several possible explanations about the Universe we are a part of:
-- The Big Bang was the beginnig of it all after a tiny quantum variation. There was no "before" because time itself started there. And YES, quantum experiments have proven the matter is constanty created from energy at a subatomic level. So YES. The Big Bang is actually one of the possible explanations.
-- The Universe we see is just a tiny tiny fraction of a much bigger Multiverse.Who knows...
-- All we see is NOT real. The Universe is just made up. It's built inside a computer simulation, either by an advanced civilization or even by ourselves in the future. We could be in a Matrix for science and observation purposes or... just within a game!

Of course, there are other possible explanations. But we don't know. And this must not be a question of what my feelings are, or what I want or like. If we are serious (and this topic ***IS***), ***WE JUST DON'T KNOW***. Period.

So I declared myself as an atheist when I was 12 years old. And I use to say: "I'm an atheist (until someone ***PROVES*** me wrong)".

PS: I have a deep respect for someone else's believes (if these believes don't mean killing or hurting people).

PS2: If you are born in a (mostly) catholic country, you have 80+% chance of becoming catholic. If you are born in a (mostly) muslim country, you have 80+% chance of becoming muslim. Etc... Think of it.

 

As long as this thread doesn't derail and stays within the rules all is good. And speaking of the rules, even if it's difficult, please keep religion(s) out of this thread.

That's not a question of believing it's measurable.

As to me, I'm a tolerant atheist. Means, I let all people believe what they want as long as they do the same.
I don't need a god to tell me what's right or wrong, good or bad and I neither feel the urge to steal, murder, rape or invade anywhere.

 

Good old foster can still get attention on a 6 years old thread

 

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