United Plugins 2nd Hand Editions Explained

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  1. tzzsmk

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    We all hate when plugins start producing noises or mute after their trial versions expire and force us to redo all the work we've done so far. Therefore we decided to avoid the situation and give you a limited functions version rather than annoying demos wherever we can. The second-hand gear collection is quite significant now.

    Free versions of our plugins simply lose some of the controls. And when you try to click them you are directed to the product page.

    Is my trial period work lost?
    Not at all. This is basically why we do it. The 2nd hand versions of the plugins can read the settings from the projects. You may even open other people's projects created using the full versions of the plugins but you are limited in editing some parameters. And you can always swipe through the presets if you need more time to decide whether they are worth buying.

    source, full article: https://unitedplugins.com/news/detail/85


    this is very cool approach from the developers, what do you think folks?
    :chilling:
     
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    This is also just a kind of marketing by the manufacturer to sell their products.
     
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    that's for sure,
    but the fact you can send a project to someone without a license, sounding same, with just locked controls, is very fresh idea
    :invision:
     
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    Totally agree, sometimes you get a project where a person used some hyped,expansive (but absolutely useless for you) plugin, and he need THAT plugin in FX chain for "his sound", and this way you can just put it on the channel and continue to work. I hope most important controls like Dry/Wet is available in both versions.
     
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    This is correct and a pretty clever idea to make life easier for the users, for which there are some plus points.

    Otherwise United Plugins is a cool company that has surprised me with some plugins really
    positive. https://unitedplugins.com/plugins Clear buy recommendation from me.
     
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    This is a good idea, yes.
    Similar to kiloheart are doing with their snapins. You can open any preset even if you don't have all the snapins, but you can't control them.
    Intelligent marketing.
     
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    prefer full versions with noise or audio dropouts, so i can test everything in depth. I hate feature reduced or crippled tryout versions.
     
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    their trial is not crippled, this "2nd hand edition" is what happens after the trial period ends :wink:
     
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    OMG. Yeah. That's what manufacturers do. They make products to sell them. You are free to not buy them. So they respect your freedom and you respect theirs. Simple. Hm?
     
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    Ohhh then i understand their article wrong. So i guess one could still unlock it after trial time ends? (assume its not ilokshit)
     
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    If it was just that some aspects of the plug-in continued working after the trial was over it would have been a "meh", but the fact that presets and projects made with the full version continues working just with locked controls is a really cool feature. It really shows that the developer is thinking about both present and future customers. IMO it's even better than the ones that continue working fully but where there is no recall or preset saving (Tokyo Dawn Labs do this, I think?). Imagine if all developers could adopt this method!
     
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    Please stay on topic, the user @tzzsmk asked:
     
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    Let me allow some META here, i will put it into a spoiler

    As a developer you want also some kind of money for your work you put into your product, so you think about ways to make users wanting to get your product, without annoying them to much. This is very hard as we have seen with fancy protection ideas ala Tone2, ilockshit, downloading extra license manager.
    If that is really the case that you can run the plugin with fixed values for a few controls after trial period is a good comprimise to the various protection ideas we had seen so far.
    And of course they want to make money, otherwise how would they survive as company/people?

    It is also good marketing, because people say, let me test it and if i can continue to use it after the trial period, why not? Assume it does not come with other extra BS stuff ...

    Upon 3rd reading:

    This means the Plugin State is retained as a function and is not removed like for so many demo version - that is very annoying!! But a few direct parameters of the plugin cant be accessed after the trial period has ended. This means the plugin is still fully functional if you find a way to reset the trial period, which is a good thing, if you want to invest the time to find out how to do that.
    Lets see how this works in practice.

    It is still better than maybe muting plugins after trial period ends, which is very annoying.
     
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    If a manufacturer produces something that everyone wants or needs, it will remain on the market. If the product is very useful and well made, it only needs honest marketing and no tricks. The manufacturer will convince with the quality of the product. All the others, since the market is saturated, will want to come with extreme price slides and promises to the money of customers.
     
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    Hmm i like to decide on protections, if i have to install ilok or any managers, i usually i wont try it.
    I am not sure how this holds for other users. But if the product - here the plugin has less protection and friendly protection, its mostly that i will give it a try then something, which is plain stupid and requires to much to install for me ...

    I dont understand how this plays in here with united plugins? Because protection is one of the points people will consider among:
    - price
    - easy to install
    - GUI
    - do others use it?
    - plugin formats
    - CPU usage
    - etc

    so its just another concept rethought of, to maybe get some extra users - i dont think that is bad ...
    I mean isnt steinberg doing something similar with droping their hardware dongle?
    (i am on discord servers, where you can choose DAWs role and since Steinberg roled out this new protection, number of Cubase users has trippled)

    Rethinking something bussiness-wise involves always getting money in return!
     
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    You are just too lazy. Sorry ...
    Besides you ArticStorm, there are other people who think differently and have different views.

    Almost all manufacturers have a demo or trial version, so anyone who is interested can download the plugin and test it extensively, often before deciding to buy it. If a plugin interests me, even if it is expensive, I want it. If it expands my musical horizons I want it. Sometimes money is tight and the decision to buy is postponed or Team R2R releases it for free.

    Again, if you make a good instrument that is of high quality or value, you don't have to worry about paying customers. customers, do not have to worry. Quality like Spectrasonics - Omnisphere, Trilian for example, gets around. They convince with quality, a class sound, a modern copy protection and a good workflow, desirable would be still interchangeable skins.

    Also the music editors and forums take the plugins apart.
    I agree with you there too high CPU consumption and poorly readable too small GUI are an obstacle. Here is constantly talked about how great it all is that now you can use demo / trial plugins longer, in short, if you want to use the plugin you buy it point.
     
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