Plugins in 2022 and 2021

Discussion in 'Software' started by Wolfang, Apr 27, 2022.

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What is your opinion?

  1. Nah, I don't think so. They are the same even though the protection has been stronger.

  2. Yes, I felt the same way with you.

  3. Actually, it's getting better.

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  1. Ryck

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    The other day I saw a 2TB drive on sale, but it was 5400rpm, and I was just wondering if it would be enough to put sound libraries on there
     
  2. Ryck

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    Just now they just published a
    Spitfire Audio Albion IV Uist KONTAKT Lite
    take a look at the brother site.
    If I talk about kontakt libraries that usually weigh many gigabytes.
     
  3. naitguy

    naitguy Audiosexual

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    Under archives on sister site, sometimes there are lite versions of libraries. Search for "Kontakt Lite" there, and you'll see some examples. These are libraries that a sister site user has taken and stripped down a bit. Typically, that means removing some mic positions. I've never actually grabbed any of them though, so I'm not sure how good they sound compared to a full, untouched library.

    I personally wouldn't really use those for your actual loading of libraries into Kontakt, etc (unless you're fine with possibly slow load times)... but for archiving ones that you don't use very often at all, that would definitely do. A 5400 RPM 2TB drive is where I'd throw stuff like rars of installers for plugins. I also have a copy of some kontakt/UVI libraries on there as a backup, and ones that I don't use.
     
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  4. YungstarProd

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    Been using R2R stuff for years. Btw—are some of the OG members from Team AiR are part of R2R now?
     
  5. Wolfang

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    I just tried it and found only 4 of them. Is it right or are there more of them somewhere?
     
  6. Trurl

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    No doubt to me more releases are glitchy and unstable. But, that said, if the goal is "try and buy" then that purpose is still served, and the incentive to go legit is, if anything, greater.
     
  7. Ryck

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    I think there was more, I'm not sure, but I think so. And only on the sister site have I seen these lite libraries. maybe there is another site out there, but I really only trust the sister site and well-known torrent.
     
  8. No Avenger

    No Avenger Moderator Staff Member

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    :woot: Type in the search field lite kontakt and you'll find more than just four. :yes:
     
  9. Wolfang

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    Wow! Yes, I can see many of them now. I typed Kontakt Lite before and it just showed me only 4 though. The search algorithm of the sis site is weird indeed. Thx!!

    BTW, do the lite versions have a minor function than the normal version?
     
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    AFAIK, no.
     
  11. BlackHaze1986

    BlackHaze1986 Rock Star

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    And there are the minified Version aswell @ Sis Site :wink:
     
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  12. dia manu

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    who cares they both are gods, air had a bit more focus on industry standards, r2r purposefully? omitting it (sonnox, soundtoys, mcdsp), thats my general drift and im following this for 20+ years now)
     
  13. BaSsDuDe

    BaSsDuDe Audiosexual

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    As long as a challenge exists, there will be people who will meet that challenge.
    Protection no matter its form and strength, if it is online, it will always be susceptible to being broken.
     
  14. dia manu

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    thats not developers thats companies with outsourcing and dependancies on outdated protections like ilok
    if youre a proper developer you can compile your plugins code in 5? minutes.
     
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  15. mino45

    mino45 Kapellmeister

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    It might be a bit off topic but here you go.. I guess protecting software is an understandable move. I dont think it will actually help a lot though.
    On a side note: I started buying all the software i use because i earn money using it. It actually helped a lot even. First of all you realize that you don't need every peace of available software to make great sounding music. You have to think about what you buy and what you use, which will help you getting to know the software you use a lot better which will in return help you with creating better music.

    Basically you can make great sounding music using Reaper which everyone should be able to afford and only free plugins. There are free options for basically everything you need to do to process your audio properly. If you know how to do it, you will be perfectly fine. So the main reason for buying expensive software is marketing and maybe some ease of use.
    There are a few special use cases where special software is helpful, but if you happen to need it, you should be able to afford it because you should be earning enough money using it. If you don't, you don't need to have it.

    So I think protecting software does not really help the industry a lot because most people that use the software professionally will buy it anyways. Protection is expensive and it reduces the performance and it will get cracked eventually. So people that are willing to buy it will buy it and the others will wait until it is cracked. It would be a better move to sell it for a lower price so a lot of people can afford it.
    People that can't afford buying your software will never buy it. It is as easy as that.

    A lot times a little will be the same regardless whether you have a lot of people paying a little money or if you have a few people paying a lot of money. The main reason why it is expensive is that people think they need it.
    Plus the more people are actually using your software the better your software will become as more people will put time and effort into reporting bugs, requesting features etc.

    And people that use it illegaly might end up buying it at some point, if they can afford it and if they are convinced by the product. People that don't use your software wont buy it either most of the time. I only buy software that i was able to test excessivly and that i actually think will be benificial to my music making.

    So i guess i would implement some easy protection scheme that is lightweight and that will stop everyone from using it for free without even thinking about it and sell it for a reasonable affordable price so that a lot of people will end up buying it as it will end up being cracked sooner or later and then people that are looking for it on sites like the sister side will download it and use it for free.

    If you look at the discounts that developers give from time to time, you can be sure that they are still earning money selling it at the price they ask.

    AND if you have a working version of a plugin that does everything you expect it to do, don't update it unless there is some new feature you actually need or there is a performance gain that will justify it.
     
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  16. 9000k

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    you sure it was a legit S1 and not using less plugins which solved the issues then?
     
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  17. Wolfang

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    Minified version? Could u tell me what the keywords for it, plz?
     
  18. No Avenger

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    kontakt minified, in this order.
     
  19. Wolfang

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    Ye, I'm pretty sure as I tested it with the same project files. AFAIK, some DAWs such as Cubase, S1, Pro Tools, and etc are known that their cr**ked version has some glitches.
     
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  20. Wolfang

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    Thx, NoAvenger! So, only Kontakt has the minified and lite version?
     
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