Hi guys,

I'm in the search of good (means the best *yes*) pitch shifting plug in or a program for the whole mix. If somebody knows about such a thing that does not create any artifacts? I need pitch shifting withing a very small interval (20 to 40 cents).

Thanks in advance for any thoughts, experience, etc...

 

There is none which creates zero artifacts.

But the absolute best I know is the pitch-shift/time-stretch function in iZotope RX3 Advanced.
You can also shift formants with it, should your mix include vocals as well.

 

It would be a lot of different mixes. Mostly classical music, some with vocal.

 

Better than Melodyne Editor?

 

Yes, I don't think you can do the same with Melodyne as with RX3.

Just try it.
Load a song into the standalone, select the pitch-shift module, load the preset "full mix", and select "shift formants", if the mix includes vocals.
Than shift it a semitone up or down and listen.

 

I agree with Gulliver that it's impossible to do such drastic things as pitch shift a whole mix without artifacts, especially if you're dealing with stuff like classical music where you have a lot of different acoustic instruments. It's very hard even with single instruments or solo tracks.
iZotope RX is my fav tool too, but I've also found the pitch shift in Adobe Audition to be very good.
But I've never tried to use it on a full mix.

 

I'm assuming you want to pitch shift without changing the length of the clip. If you don't mind length changing, resampling/varispeed would do fine with absolutely no artefacts.

With such a small shift of 20-40c, most non-crap ones should do fine.

You might not even need to touch the formant with such a small shift.

RX3 should do fine.

There's also Amazing Slow Downer (change the cents in the status bar).

See a list i made here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Arj2Nn-TKZ9adHN2c3A5NnBkNlp4LVlDZHdmUnBGRXc&usp=drive_web#gid=0

 

RX 3 works with semitones only. I need cents. So, for example, I need -32 cents for the whole mix but RX offers either -0.3 or -0.4 semitones. And frankly its algorithm is not so good compared to DIRAC. Though I dislike DIRAC also.

Of course, want to pitch shifting without changing the length of a clip. Other way, I would use analog tape with no artifacts at all.

Does someone try Eventide Harmonizer for this? Some people say it is not bad.

 

In the Studio One daw, when you right click a waveform in the arrangement view (it could be your song for example) it has two option about pitch-shifting: File Tempo, Speedup Transpose and Tune, the tune increments are cents and the transpose increments are semitones and also.. the quality is perfect for me because i never heard artifacts in my daily tunings, also when i tried to tune a sample in Cubase 5 the way i did with Studio One using the on-board options, the Cubase 5 pitching sounded somehow.. grainy. I won't bet that i used it correctly, but in Studio One you do these kind of things on the fly. I know also Pitchwheel from Quikquak which is good as well.

 

Evorax, pray you not to continue. Not all plugins, that use cents sounds good. Pitchwheel is certainly awful. Anyway thank you.

To everybody:
I decided to leave the idea because it seems, there are no suitable solutions available on the market today.

 

Maybe it's aweful in your subjective opinion, but in certain tasks it does the job done with no artifacts. It's a matter of how you use it. Have a nice day. *yes*

 

RX2+ can shift by 0.1st. Double klik on the number, and you can type it in. Also, try reading the manual and try playing with advanced parameters such as noise, phase, pitch coherence & transients.

EDIT: Also, I found that pitchwheel was bad on pop stuff with more than 1st shift. YMMV.

 

Zplane's Elastique Pitch is very good and so is the Melda Pitch shifter. Zplane's allows you to target certain frequency ranges as well. Also, I do love the Studio One's shifting abilities. It's definitely worth checking out/ trying.

 

Waves picth shifter is not bad. It works with cents. The pitch-wheel blows from my short experience using it.. If the audio sample is good quality then the less artifacts you will have when you shift it up or down. It obviously also depends on what your trying to pitch (eg,drums, vocals, synths). I try not to pitch anything more then 4 semitones (up or down). If that's the case choose another sample.

 

I would try Melodyne. If you want to shift precisely 32cs with least artifacts, that's probably the best solution. Even though I agree with most posts above. Many cheap tools can achieve that
without beeing too audible. But it's always a matter of taste.

Big Mike