It can be said that almost all the music that's being made now is 7-note music. That is, the producers use 7 notes in the whole music (a single major or minor key).

When 12 notes are used in music, it gives the music, Classical, Jazz or Soundtrack flavor. These three old types of music have their own fans, but most music listeners are 7-note listeners.

• Is it possible to use 12 notes of the Chromatic Scale in such a way that music gives a modern sound and 7-note music listeners migrate to 12-note music?

 

Why do you want to migrate them?
I didn't knew those people listen to this music because it contains only 7 notes.

"7-note music listeners"

Crazy.

 

For lots of reasons...

 

just try to make a single song, with all the 12 notes. a song, thats hear-able for most listeners. dont try to convince and migrate anybody, just composing. and no, most listeners dont like schönberg!

 

Well then. I hope you'll change the world!

If you replace your definition of this music from "7-note music" or "pop music" to what it actually is: sensory overloaded music plus if you do not believe that these people are coming on this world with the need to listen to this music, I can advise you to get some lecture in developmental psychology.
They provide some very clear answers on "how to migrate them".

https://www.verywellmind.com/developmental-psychology-4157180#:~:text=Developmental psychology is the branch,the course of a lifetime.&text=Some of the many issues,Developmental challenges and learning disabilities

 

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What I smell here...? Ah, him again

 

Try using quasi-chromatic scales. One example: Lets take an A minor pentatonic (A-C-D-E-G-A) 0r Root, min 3rd, 4th, 5th, min 7th, Root. Now play A,B,C,D,Eb,E,G,G#,A. That gives you Root, ninth, minor third, fourth, flat five, fifth, minor seventh, Major seventh, Root. Lots of variations are available on this idea. Think of the chromatic notes as passing tones because that's what they are.

 

His masking perfume did manage to last a few weeks this time; maybe sneaked in while we were all R2R waving

 

You know, my question was: How to create modern flavors by chromatic scale?

Can you show me a music producer who uses 12 notes, and the music he produces is a music that attracts listeners? Because when you use more than 7 notes, the music loses its state of modernity and popularity and when music is not modern, is not welcomed by the general listeners.

 

So you listened to all the music that's being made "now" in world? I don't think that's the case and I think you should be a bit more specific about what type of music are you talking about cuz I can quote a bunch of pop music, rap or whatever genre that goes beyond the basic 7-note scale bit. From Ariana Grande, Britney Spears to Tyler, The Creator and Childish Gambino.

Unless I'm misunderstanding you and you're being literal about using all 12 chromatic notes in a same song, which I'm not sure I can think of anything right now on the top of my head, at least in pop music (which is what I think you're referring to).

 

pfft... typical. you people are always so threatened when great thinkers make such insightful, cutting edge observations about music.

coreal is part of the wool knitting community that is moving into the music industry in a big way -- step aside, and be prepared to be revolutionized. before you know it you will be playing crochet instruments with strings of pure, hi-tech wool. while you were napping with R2R, they were perfecting their wooly sound.

 

Yes...

All the mainstream music

They don't use chromatic scale. Their main technique would be sectional key changing with no reason.

Yes, this is what I'm saying.

Popular music (except Jazz of course) is majorly 7-note music. 7-note music has the largest database among all kinds of music in the history of music. But don't you think it's time to move on to 12-note music? The fundamental question is, how do we make this change that listeners would welcome it?

 

You're right; I wasn't paying attention ,
but now that you've reminded me, I remember their ancestors also made wooly jumpers for the Mystical Seven.
I'm only surprised that Foster-Coreal hasn't adopted their avatar

- or maybe it was his great granddaddy that got thrown out of the Mystical Seven?
The plot thickens.

 

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No.

We don't and they don't.

 

Definitely NO. That can't be said...
Again a thread beginning with a biased view. You will never learn nor enrich yourself that way.

And yes, it's the same old way than that banned user. His contribution was so useless that I forgot his name.

 

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There are 8 or 9 notes ragas/makams/scales that don't sound chromatic. The most well known examples from Western music theory are diminished octatonic and augmented nonatonic scales.

 

How many notes did the Pink Panther theme use?

 

Yes it can be said...

It's not my biased view. I just reflected the reality as it is.

I want to learn. If you notice the question, you would see that I want to learn.

I'm asking you this question: Where can I find mainstream 12-note music (been produced in 2021) targeted at public audiences? Please post some of them.

 

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Dear Foster,
I wish it was possible to simply put you out of your misery painlessly - but alas.

The bottom line here is that you have no idea what you're actually talking about.
You have no idea of the actual relevance of terms like diatonic or chromatic and you are simply posturing (again) by pretending to be interested.
But we all know the drill here... there is no point in you bleating on about the innocence of your supposedly well-intentioned questions when we all know that in few pages forward, your true motives will surface again, and reveal your predictable rants against all forms of music that don't fit your blinkered prejudices.

The observations above are based on seeing you make countless dumb contributions, using countless disguises, in countless other threads. You have verified far too often that you have no motivation whatsoever of actually trying to learn about the stuff you pretend to be discussing. You have no surprises left to fool us with!

And so, that is why comments in every thread, in which you participate, inevitably degenerate into everyone taking the piss out of both your willful ignorance and your disingenuous motives. And that's assuming you haven't conned any newcomers into taking you seriously.

The only hope here is that this thread gets moved to the humor section where it rightfully belongs. If that happened then at least you could make an ass out yourself (again) in an appropriate place. AND it would have the benefit of defending the Education section from your farce.