Constructive criticism needed.

Discussion in 'Our Music' started by jagen, Jan 10, 2022.

  1. jagen

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    Thanks a million. I appreciate it. Acknowledged. Arigato.
     
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  2. Donut Nyamer

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    You're welcome! You have a ton of potential here especially with your lyrics! Good luck on your next recording session!
     
  3. jagen

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    Thanks. This means a whole lot to me. Thank you very much.
     
  4. Strat4ever

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    Constructive criticism can hurt ones feelings, but, if you get the same message from them all you are on the right path to improvement, never give up but just try changing things up a bit.
    1) Too much cacophony can be very irritating, less is more and gives you a chance for more expression.
    2) Is there an excessive ammount of repetition, this will bore people.
    3) Balance sound levels having certain high level irritating sounds is like a spike going through your brain.
    4) Don't quit, keep practicing fine tune and hone the song till you and others think you have it right.
    When everyone is significantly impressed, you now know you are doing something right. You have to be your own worst critic to evolve. good luck.
     
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    Thanks a lot. Oh! It's just me, I composed, produced, recorded, mixed and mastered it all by myself. I gave some people and producers IRL who told me it's OK. But, I wanted different opinions; the reason I brought it here.

    Thank you for your contribution. Thank you so much.
     
  6. DJMani

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    Lol, lyricist
    Weak, comin at me with those Wack Ass nursery rhyme lyrics. I feel like you're incapable of realizing how Wack thoselyrics be. mfer dont know how Lame he is. On the streets, you get put to sleep in a closed casket
     
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    Hi, Jagen! As I have remarked, the mix is poor. But. I like it if we skip the production and focus on the beat's feel. I think it is interesting. You choose a nice synth patch. The tune, its atmosphere, and the lyrics fit each other well. I'm not into rap music so I can't judge your poetry. I talking about the message, I like it.
    I feel you have a passion for music, so I am sure that you can achieve a great result(just put a proper effort). Pay attention to the dynamics and look at the frequency ranges to see which ones are most significant to the different instruments(parts). Learn how low frequencies work, the unmasking tricks, the anatomy of kicks, etc. In addition to mixing courses as such, I advise you to pay attention to such plugins as Neutron 3, Trackspacer 2 (check them on Youtube). "A / B" referencing plugins are also very useful e.g. Metric AB. My main advice is to keep making music with your own vibe. As a learning curve, it's helpful to try and re-create someone's beat or synth patch. It helps a lot to understand many things, but nothing more. It will take time to develop your own unique signature sound, but it's worth it.
    Here is an example of a masterpiece(in my opinion), both lyrics and music:
     
  8. vuldegger

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    i'd say bin it, you can do better. sorry.
     
  9. jagen

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    Thank you.
     
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  10. jagen

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    Thank you very much.
     
  11. BEAT16

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    If you told people beforehand that music is not that easy to make, many would jump off. Oh, that's too hard for me.

    But once you get into it, you want to finish a great song. You get better with time, the more you hear the more you can judge better. Good things take time. You've come a long way and have the courage to listen to criticism and seem to be able to learn.

    So continue on your way and don't get discouraged. You can do it...
     
  12. jagen

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    Thank you.
     
  13. Stuck In The 80s

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    Feedback is a gift. You've had more feedback than most who post here.
     
  14. Colin

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    thank you. it was constructive criticism. when you get towards The Beatles end of the songwriting spectrum give me a shout.
     
  15. recycle

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    I finally hear you say something with meaning...

    Yes, any kind of negative / positive feedback whatsoever (when done sincerely) is a precious gift. The next step for an artist will then be to decode and elaborate all these inputs in the right way.
    In my opinion, positive feedback is only useful to inflate the artist's ego: that's why I tend to listen and forget it a second later (it can be dangerous for mental balance). it is mandatory instead, to focus on negative criticism: the heavier it is, the more it should attract your attention, the key to improvement is hidden in there.

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    Generally, criticism of colleagues is worth nothing: they have partial and distorted views of what art is. Moreover, their judgment is sometimes not sincere (rivalry, envy, etc. ..) therefore useless
     
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    I liked it.

    It's obviously an early effort by someone who is new to making music, but it's definitely better than my first efforts. The lyrics were interesting and heartfelt, but I think they lack the kind of skillful wordplay you'd expect from an experienced MC, or the kind of strong hook that you'd need if you were looking to get club play.

    The beat wasn't terrible, but it was too samey. You need a bit more variation to keep the listeners attention, but that's just part of learning your craft. The basic melodic idea seemed fine to me.

    Keep working at it. Find high quality videos on production and keep learning. For me, the core question when it comes to making music is 'what are you doing it for?' If you do it because you want to be rich and famous ... well, you might as well go play the lottery. You stand more chance of winning at that. However, if you're doing it because you enjoy the process, you've got something inside you that you want to get out, then it doesn't much matter what other people think of you. The most surprising artists find an audience eventually if they keep at it. You might never sell millions, but nobody sells millions in this day and age anyway.
     
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    The most constructive criticism is:
    Don't lend your ears to the critics and do your own job.:chilling:
     
  18. Donut Nyamer

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    As flattered as I am that you called me funny earlier and a lyricist now cause I can't return the compliment since you're more annoying than a slore working the red light district. But I have not once posted any lyrics, that's just me making factual statements about you. lmfao god damn, you're like a loose cunt cannon that loves to come at people unprovoked like you have nothing else in your life, it's sad as fuck.

    You fucked up when you told everybody that you pop happy little Calvin Klien x pills today listening to techno and then cry yourself to emo for the next 3 days so no you don't know what street is, you don't know any killers cause they're all militant. You sure as fuck don't know what hard is cause the streets don't post on forums you cuck.

    If you weren't so god damn illiterate then you tell that his track wasn't even trying to be hard, dude had a positive message. You said the same thing twice in this thread that even OP thinks you're a clown. Say something constructive or get the fuck out cause you sound like you look like a passive-aggressive lesbian from far away that likes to take your sad personal problems out on other people online, sadkunt. Also love how you tiptoed around the second part of me shitting in your mouth and went to the "lyricism" hahahah ya sloppy yanked up baseball game hot dog.

    Why don't you open up a thread and challenge me to a diss, if I win you get to move your fatass off the forum for good? Deal? Put your actions where your toys are, you emo cunt. I'm ready to flick you like a cigarette butt cause I'm tired of rolling you between my fingers like a booger.
     
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  19. jagen

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    I totally agree. Thank you
     
  20. jagen

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    I do it for the love. As for word plays and metaphors, I intend to do that on another track. I tried keeping this as simple as I could. Thank you very much for your comment. I appreciate it a lot.
     
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