Clipping before limiting : the solution for not artifacts?

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  1. WizzDome71

    WizzDome71 Producer

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    in addition to this technique i would recommand putting the clipper between two eqs. the first cutting the lows and the second bringing them back. it allows you to have even more control on the transients and to keep the warmth of the low end intact (seen this in a "fixmymix" video)
     
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    You're not meant to clip that hard. You should only trim the drum peaks and leave the sustained sounds untouched.

    Legit advice here.
    apShaper lets you do this within the plugin, with its three independently routable filters.
    Some plug from denise is also built around this idea, although they called it "push-pull" in the marketing while it should be called "emphasis-de-emphasis".
     
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    which of so many channels has this explanation? because with that name '' fixmymix '' there are a lot of useless on youtube playing to be engineers:rofl:
     
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    Clipping is a tool like any other. You can clip a lot of these fake analog processors like tape machines or tube or transformer emulations.

    If you are just shaving the random snare or high hat transient in order to reduce the amount of work your limiter without introducing more compression it can in fact preserve dynamics while squaring off some of the high flyers.

    If it works and sounds good then it's useful. There are no panaceas or fixed solutions, use what works when it works.
     
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    it s a series from MyMixLab (you can find them on sister site) featuring very good engineers just sharing their skills, nothing dogmatic
    this technique actually works very well because it prevents the clipper from cutting/distorting too much of the low end and overreacting. in a way it's the same principle as for the limiter, it helps the clipper "breathe"
     
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    Clip the transients. Aliasing/intermodulation distortions for noise and clicks will be...noise and clicks. Oversampling can help to decrease it. Clipping chops off the transients, not limit/compress. So, dynamic is preserved more with clipping, than with limiting. Chopping off with distortion, not limiting with loudness decreasing.
    Then limiter. Oversampling and true peak detection. Less aliasing, IMD and true, closer to analog, limiting, not fake, digital PCM which is only inside your PC... Analog in, analog out. Everything digitally created/processed with PC will be analog out, not PCM anymore.
    But true peak limiting limits way more transients.
    Something like that.
     
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