you can find people who argue about how to boil water online.

 

Hey - how do I boil water online? Do I need a Mac for that?
Maybe a water cooled PC before I download it? - tell me tell me tell me

Update-edit:
I'm gradually getting there; have just ordered one of these - a bargain.

 

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"All DAW wars are bankers wars".. General Smedley Butler

 

I don't have much to add, but some people are too passionate or belligerent when it comes to certain topics. The moment they see someone with a different opinion to theirs, they'll begin constantly criticizing that opinion or even the person directly, making unnecessary comments or comparisons. They go away, eventually, unless someone just as belligerent as them and with a different opinion joins in. They'll then proceed to try and one-up each other. What may have been a healthy discussion between several people, turned into a heated argument of two.

The only reason I can come up with for this behaviour, is that these people grew up in an echo chamber where people's opinions rarely differed, or they're not used to being wrong and they just can't ever be wrong. Again, they're too passionate.

On the topic of DAWs, YouTube comment chains in some DAW tutorials are especially bad, and some content creators don't make things better by making jokes about other DAWs and their users, which some people take too seriously.

 

Honestly. Cause deep down inside....Everyone knows no one can match Reaper..But we still try to play along with the other daw fan boys to keep their morale up especially around the holidays

 

Make music not war <3

 

No worries, this is sometimes beyond our control.

 

USB Wine is brilliant!

 

Yeah, it's nuts LMAO.
I mean, you can boil even a diamond just with a new NVidia/Radeon and turning off cooling. Why people complicate things over these trivial matters is beyond me.

Tequila version please

 

With the worm?

 

Of course. I'm not a vegan

 

Was talking about this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_worm

 

I can ignore people arguing over things they like or not until it harms me in any way.
Peace
FL Sucks

 

Unfortunately, there's a fact, and that's peaceful coexistence doesn't last long. Just as there's a war between DAWs' users, and they say it openly, there's a war like this between the developers themselves. The war between them is not verbal but they're also fighting to attract new customers or other DAWs users to themselves. The wars of the past were militarized, but today's wars are scientific, economic, cultural, psychological, etc. But the goal of all wars is almost common, and it is to gain more power and benefits.

So we can conclude that war always exists. Whether we want it or not.

 

Now that's something I would love to read in an novel and then rate it 5/10.

 

Arguing about DAWs on the internet is like running a sack race at the Olympics. Even if you win, you look THAT stupid...

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It's pretty obvious that no one in this thread does paying work across multiple studios where session format and interchange is a big concern, because in that case it's unfortunately still not a case of "use what works for you," it's a case of "use what the other studios are using or waste sh*tloads of time and money on session interchange." And the other studios, by and large, are still using Pro Tools.

Like what happens when you want to cut drum tracks for a 12-song LP at the big studio down the road with the Neve and big live room? Let's say you have 14 mics on the kit, 3-4 takes per song. Are you going to comp the takes while you're on the clock at the big studio? Or do you consolidate all the files to start from zero and then sift through literally hundreds of audio files at home? Neither are satisfactory options to me.

Also if you were working in studios in the 2000's there was nothing out there like PTHD. In some ways there still isn't - the latest Thunderbolt interfaces with really fast computers are just now starting to outdo the I/O latency times of those old HD TDM systems (which were in the sub 1ms range). It's not like it became industry standard by accident.

Reports of bad MIDI editing in PT largely stem from version 7 and earlier; in v8 there was a big overhaul. Yes it's not the best for orchestral scoring, yes it's missing arpeggiators and scale conform etc but integration with external hardware is good. Many films have been scored in PT.

 

You forgot a very important thing, not every one is a engineer.
Composers have other priorities.
And composers are also working professionally.

So yes , some people like you don't have much choice unfortunately, but luckily, others like artists still does.
Last but not least, some people make music very seriously even if they are not into the "pro" circuit, and their opinion is at least as valid as the ones who make money with music.

 

The fundamental difference between daws is their purpose: basically we can divide them into production-oriented and mixing-oriented (some daws decently do both). My personal view is as follows:
(In this list appear only daws that I know and on which I can give my personal opinion)

Production oriented:
Fruity Loops
Garage Band
Bitwig
Ableton
Reason
Acid
NTrack
Any type of trackers (like Renoise)


Production / mixing (good for both):
Studio One
Reaper
Logic

Mixing oriented:
ProTools
Cubase
Nuendo
Harrison Mixbus
Luna
Audition

In top-level productions, the mix is generally performed in a different studio than the one where the song was composed and very often the daw used in these high-end studios is ProTools. Now, ProTools is a great tool for sound engineers, but not so used by producers. In these cases, the only possible DAW interchange procedure to import a project is to export stems

Note:
There are forms of translating file projects from one daw to another, the one I know is OMF (Open Media Framework)
OMF is a great idea, but I've found it less great in practice: sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't

 

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+1 for Influence by Robert Cialdini ... mind opening thoughts/concept.