I"m talking about coffee..the hell you kids talking about?! You guys are on that Spice or Scooby Snax? I"m pretty sure both of these characters in this video are on this thread..

 

water is better.

 

wait until you see what legalization is like. it's like they have invented new things solely because they have run out of other things to use it for.

 

When is legalization supposed to be?

Kratom Leaf, its natural. It's like caffeine and weed sort of. Except it lasts way longer.

 

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can't be bothered with making shit anymore so its a jar of instant from the dollar store nowadays when I feel like having. all coffee tastes like shit anyway, that's why its gotta be tarted up with sugars and creams

 

The alkaloids in Kratom and khat aren't caffeine based. Of the two Khat is probably the worse as it's more addictive and more prone to ramp up, and its primary alkaloid cathinone SC1 banned substance in the U.S. I traveled a bit in the middle east and in Africa where people are addicted to Khat and balloon their cheeks out with the stuff, toothless and oblivious to the world. In their particular situations, poverty, civil war, shit life, maybe it's a decent form of escapism.

I remember back in the day people were looking at Kratom as a cheap opioid withdrawal treatment. Problem with that was that in effective doses it too was addictive and could cause physical withdrawal and psychological breakdown in same way as opioids.

Like everything else in life, use it carefully and know what you are doing. It's been used with care in regional traditional medicine as prescribed herb for a long time. If you are prone to addiction, weak or an idiot, 3 completely different traits and each one of use can have one or more of those traits or none, Kratom will bite you in the ass just as much as any other drug.

Opium poppies, coca leaves, Ephedra Sinica (meth precursor), Sassafras root, Salvia divinorum are all natural. Doesn't mean their safe, but it also doesn't mean they don't have uses or aren't fun to play with.

@OP

I do like a nice cup of coffee every once in a while. I prefer dark roast arabicas, a well and correctly made espresso, turkish boil, or vietnamese drip. On a daily basis though, not so much, just no interest. Maybe once or twice a week sometimes longer. I like the dose to be small concentrated and if it doesn't cause you to break out in a light sweat it isn't well done. I mostly take it black, except for some nutty viet/malay beans where I do like a good dose of sweet condensed milk along for the flavor benefits.

Sometimes, I got for tea instead. Two or three times a year maybe even a Red Bull or some random guarana drink out of curiosity if the mood or the shiny can draws my attention.

 

Caffeine is a hell of a drug...

 

Agreed, on everything you've said. I did get carried away with Kratom and now that you mention it, you're right it had pain relieving effects like opium. I should have used it like 2-3 times a week but I liked feeling fucked up from it.

 

Nothing wrong with that. As long as you know what you are doing and can take control or at least acknowledge the side effects

 

At a certain point in your life caffeine can become a true enemy. Once your friend it can sneak up on you and bring you anxiety, panic attacks, depression, all kinds of neurological issues, heart problems, etc, that most are not even aware comes from caffeine.
Withdrawal can last from few weeks to few months and it can be hell if you drank a lot of coffee, but once you do it you become totally stress free again.

 

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The dose makes the poison. My doctor recommends drinking no more than 2 cups of coffee a day. And please not after 6 p.m.

 

I drink Turkish coffee every day. Until I had at least one big cup with a bit of soy milk and sugar every day I'm like a Tasmanian Devil. I usually have two big cups in the morning, drink them for about 2 hours with about 4 fags and that's it. Not a Tasmanian Devil afterwards, especially mixed with a tablet of Valium. :P Then 10mg of Valium with 2 shots of vodka in the evening, drinking red wine for the rest of the evening and having some spliffs if available while I'm making music. Brings Tasmanian devil back.

Headaches? We Slavics don't get headaches. Only from women.

Otherwise, I'm staying away from drugs. Just say "no!" when someone asks you "would you mind to have some of ....... ?"

Cheers!

 

I bought caffeine pills hoping they would give me some sort of weak amphetamine flashback, but I all got was jitters and nausea.

Caffeine is the stupidest drug I've ever taken.

 

Max 2 Pots a Day , and after some timne I stop drinking Coffee and switch to Tea, eg Guayusa, Pu Ehr, Mate.
And after that I do a complete coffein withdraw. After some days without coffein acts much better

 

is there a aeropress which is not made out of plastic ?

 

Nothing better than cooking your coffee in a steel pot. Bring to boiling twice to get more kick [caffeine] out of it.

That's how Turkish coffee is made.

And you put as much milk in it as you would in a black tea. Ahmad Ceylon tea blend is my favourite. Half caffeine in comparison to coffee. That's like smoking a spliff after taking cocaine, kinda.

 

I used to drink mostly Turkish style, as other types dilute it with too much water and it lacks the kick the Turkish gives you.

 

That's not the reason. Turkish coffee foams a lot as it boils. You bring to the first boil, cut the heat, get the foam out the pot (copper, never use steel) into the cups, then bring it to a boil again and pour into cups.

I never quite got our coffee's almost meth-like reputation abroad. My grandmother used to drink it before going to bed