Best RAM over those 2?

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  1. Kuuhaku

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    I see, Im gonna do that testing so.

    I have no money to get 2x16 actually, that is my cocern right now, mixing 2 memory sticks, so I was looking to at least fit 4 sticks that are the same size, frequency and latency
     
  2. Kuuhaku

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    How bad or how hard is trying to mix those memories, even if they are the same frequency, latency and size?
     
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    There's a pretty good chance you won't be able to run the different combination of RAM sticks at 4k and same good timings. You've got pretty good memory. Is it really necessary to bring it up to 32GB? I would suggest to rather be patient and buy 2x16GB sticks, or 4x8GB sticks of the same RAM you have right now. Interesting how high they can run at such low voltage, almost to the point that I'm inclined not to trust the CPU-Z. :wink:
     
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  4. Kuuhaku

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    yup, I had no effort trying to put em at 4000mhz, I just turned D.O.C.P on and changed from the native 3600 to 4000mhz, worked just fine, could even get a tighter timing on the tRC. I really don't want to mess things up but I'm using lots of ram
     
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    It works best when the RAM bars are exactly the same! Most of the time you don't even notice the difference or, in other words, the difference is marginal and barely noticeable. Enjoy more memory - you will do what you were meant to do to save your work. The speed of the working memory is always a bit overrated. You already have a very modern mainboard and the CPU is as fast as a Porsche. You don't need to buy a Ferrari.
     
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    That makes sense, well, so I'm going to get a stick of those with no fear, thx buddy :)
     
  7. Olaf

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    Yes, exactly. CPU-Z just shows four of all available SPD profiles, in your case one XMP and three JEDEC profiles. Because they are labeled "#7", "#8", and "#9", there are at least six other profiles not shown. (AIDA and some other tools can list all of them.)
    You can check your real voltage with AMD's Ryzen Master. It's called "MEM VDDIO" there.

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    But if you set it to 1.35 V in Bios, I don't see any reason why it should be something different...

    It usually just works, but the more OC you do (XMP etc.), the higher the risk that it won't be stable at max. frequency out-of-the-box.
     
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    You can have a memory stick with the same frequency/latency, but the memory chip can be different(Samsung/Micron/Hynix/ETC).
    As you can see from ZenTimings, there are many different settings and different chips will have different values, differences in these
    values can cause problem.

    Your CPU (Ryzen xxxxG) has a better memory controller than the non G versions, that's why you
    achieved 4000 MHz, maybe the new step B2 non G versions also got the improved memory controller.
    Anyway, improved memory controller, yes...
    But that is not a guarantee it can work well with different memory chips types.
    So, another pair of "TEAM GROUP T-FORCE VULCAN 16GB (2X8) DDR4 3600MHZ" is the choice for 4x8.
     
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    Understood! Now RAM's are way clearer to me, thanks for all you guys from taking your time to explain me these things, greetings :)

    After reading and thinking a lot I'm really thinking about getting a new pair of 4x8gb of the XPG D60G, I found manny people complaining about the Corsair one not being able to reach even 3800mhz, and I found many people that could OC the XPG to 4133, which is way more than I need... And after knowing that the controller of this processor is above average and can support easily 4000mhz I'm not that worried anymore, thanks to all you guys for the help!! :wink:
     
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    Good choice @Kuuhaku, you are on the safe side.
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    Find out the takrates and change them in the bios

    Finding out the current RAM rate is very easy with a current version of Windows 10. To do this, open the Task Manager and switch to the Performance tab. When the window is maximized and the RAM is selected, the speed can be easily read. The number of built-in RAM modules and the number of available slots can also be seen. From this it can be concluded whether the main memory is working in dual channel or not.

    If you want to activate an XMP, this can be done quickly in the BIOS. All you have to do is activate the correct memory profile (see picture above). Note: The term "DOCP" is common for AMD mainboards. To do this, start your PC and press either the "F2" or "Del" key when booting to get to the BIOS. There you activate the XMP, which can be found under the Overclocking Settings. Sometimes it can even be the case that the main memory is equipped with several profiles - of course, the choice is yours. Then confirm your changes and restart your PC. In the task manager you can then check whether the set cycle is present. If you cannot select XMP or DOCP in the BIOS,then your main memory or your mainboard does not support this function.
     
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