what is the difference between IR and Match EQ ? are they the same ?

Match EQ can be found in Pro-Q3, IK Multimedia, Ozone etc. They look a lot like IR. Plus this one inside the Bias Amp.

 

I don't actually know the answer but guessing I think is one matches the eq curve and an impulse is an entire acoustic setting in a file.

 

Yes in the end IR for cabs they are just a EQ Match. that's correct.

 

this is pure hunch, but will it make sense that the IR is basically a collection of EQ curves that been applied through time. As an example, an IR with 50ms length could be 50 EQ curves for each milisecond. It happens so quick like how delays happens in reverb that you couldn't listen to one but all of them collectively as.. well an impulse, as us human couldn't tell any delay below 20ms (the pre-delay trick).

 

Now, copy these settings into a dynamic eq, do some adjustments to the dynamic response and here you are with almost the same as an impulse response, but controlled by you. :,-)

 

Nope they are NOT EQ's plz try to replicate an IR with EQ you want succeed many have tried noone has managed to get the sound of the IR using an EQ.
Technically they is "sort of" an EQ but there is so much more to shoot an IR so you cant replicate it with an EQ period

 

???.. you can replicate ir cabinets with a eq match 100%. it is a eq match in the end.

 

A single IR is static (no matter what level you throw at it, the behavior is the same). The misconception of "dynamics" comes from the decay of the IR (if it also captures the room). But if you send -6 dB, the decay will be the same as when you send -16 dB, the response is not dynamic. Acoustica makes those dynamic processors based on IRs and they need dozens/hundreds of IR files to be able to make a static IR capture behave dynamic.

On the other hand, with IR you capture a shape with a completely different phase response than you could not get with an eq so imho they can't be equated - yes, you can capture an eq to an IR but the other way around you can just roughly approximate an IR with an eq. Again, not even talking about IRs that also record the ambience, talking about very short IRs.

Now, if the eq aproximation sounds good for the job go for eq but if the IR fits better the context of the song, use the IR

 

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I've had amazing results with the NEURAL DSP amps, and Softubes Amproom cabs

 

I wonder whether it would look like this


or like this



(sorry, the sizes didn't look that different)

Anyways, I prefer a healthy and peaceful discussion.

 

Ok, I meant admint that you know better than me.

Yet a dynamic eq can give very good result instead of its, I use it specially for bass.

 

I answered mostly in connection with the name of the thread - EQ cannot completely replace an IR. Of course you can have good results by dynamic eq-ing a sound, but you do it because it delivers results, not because you're trying to emulate some IR of a bass cabinet.

 

An IR is equalization sculpted in the moment, the movement of air captured by a microphone.

King Kong and Godzilla are like 200X larger than the girls. Don't sweat it.

 

Nice Punch!
Mesa Kong vs Fractzilla?

 

This countryman uses a simple CD song part (no clean multitrack/stem). Popular songs recorded with real guitars amps and cabs.
Uses different guitar. Free ampsim plugin with default settings. Only uses an IR created with EQ matching to match the tone. And this goes back to 2014:

PS. don't be too hard with his English accent. Not his fault, I taught him...

 

Q-clone from waves could shed some light on the situation,
being a very basic eq copier.

 

Acintg like those kids who discover nicotine thinking its PCP.

 

If memory serves I think I tried Amplitube 4 that was the first with this "super" cabinet emulation.
I was impressed with the possibilities and the GUI but found it too demanding with memory and plain disk size. So I didn't properly tested it. The v5 has some improvements for sure but built on top of that v4.
I did read and heard trustworthy opinions saying it sounds great and close to the real thing. Someone even said it has some non-linear (distortion) emulation besides the IRs but not sure about that.

Nailed it. MCABINET FOR THE WIN!!!
I agree is very hard to use, but man you can do wonders.

 

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OMG

Has tardado en unirte al cachondeo xD Took you long to jump in, you mo*%%**%%&*$%

Edited: wrong quote. double quote. or something

 

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9000 IRs lol, that is crazy... yeah, i just found out that its almost impossible to do a cabinet just with EQ, but lets say that a impulse response its just that, EQ and nothing else. However the results can be pretty close to the real world and that is what matters.

And yeah bro, i know about the Grindstein pedal, it nails perfectly that Entombed sound with even more possibilities, i am hoping someday a developer makes a Crate amp of some sort or an Ampeg VH140c, i am tired of the same BS of always, 5150 emulations, Rectifiers, etc.

Neat idea!

Haha there is always "fights" in topics like these, i just like to see opinions from people.