which Daw comes with the most instruments/loops/samples

thanks!

 

Reaper.

 

Samples and loops are now a dime a dozen. Free samples are also available on the WorldWideWeb (WWW), you would need several lives to hear them all. Try these DAWs and decide if you can handle them and if you like them.

Then buy it and get happy with it.
Ableton - Studio One - Cubase - Reaper - Fl Studio (is pattern based)

 

i'm tired of hunting for sounds with reaper :/

i feel it delays the whole process of music making having to search for even the most basic sounds...you might be in the flow of writing something great and having to go download a rimshot or something from Somewhere in the whole internet...which might take a few minutes if not more for every such instance

 

thats why you normaly do one or the other, or you know........., know your stuff!
Like, what does what & where is what!

 

Hm, I often record with general midi module and later orchestrate with sounds that fit the melodies.

 

what do you mean by general midi module? thanks

 

That should not matter as the performance of the DAW is the key point. Not all of the add-ons.

 

Logic Pro X

 

It's the sound engine that's built into your computer. For quickly writing down ideas before thinking about what instruments you'll use later, etc. it could work.

On Windows, it's called the Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth. Windows Media Player uses this engine to play MIDI files. If you want to use it in REAPER, enable it in Preferences > Audio > MIDI Devices. Create a track, set its input to MIDI > All MIDI Inputs > All Channels, and set the track's hardware output to Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth. Add ReaControlMIDI to the FX, and load REAPER's General MIDI bank file to be able to change instruments.

As for the original topic, all previously mentioned DAWs except REAPER come with a wide variety of instruments and samples, most of which can get the job done. Even then, it's pretty much inevitable that you'll eventually look for third party stuff.

 

Cubase, no questions. Many many libraries with wav one shots and loops, ready to be put in project. Then Padshop, Retrologue, Halion Sonic SE, Groove Agent SE, Backbone, Spectralayer all with many many libraries/patches and other small useful synths and many other I forget. Also dynamics and FX are tons and useful, Multi Tap Delay is one of the best delay plugin ever. About this point Cubase wins for me.

 

I'd say its between Cubase, Logic, Ableton and Fruity Loops,
but I don't use them, so I don't know what comes installed..

Got to consider stock content vs purchasable content..

 

I do not think anyone can answer that without counting all of the FX plugins, all of the loops and samples, and all of the vst (or au or aax) instruments in every single DAW available and draw up a graph, spreadsheet etc....Why?.... That only answers quantity though, not quality.

The next question for me would be straight out of the box, which DAW has every plugin that is usable? You'll hate the answer because it's probably all of them. Every DAW pretty much comes with a good compressor, multiband as well, verb, delay, modulation FX, limiter, panner, EQ's, spatial plugin, distortion, bus plugins, and mastering tools of various bonuses. Some have more or less of various types. All usable. Some come with transient shapers, A.I. based plugins and more.

In the end, the real question for me is do you like the way it looks and feels when you want to create something? If the answer is no, all the bells and whistles do not mean much at all.

 

except that the mighty padshop, retrologue, Backbone & Spectralayer are paid upgrades

 

Truthfully, if every DAW manufacturer took out all the bells and whistles and made their DAW without vsts, no add-ons, no online stuff other than the ability to click a link and open your browser and had only the recorder , the buses and insert bays with the mixing bay/desk, and let the user pick their own plugins, they'd all load in 2 seconds flat and more people would look at it like their home. If you are going to spend a lot of time in one place it pays to be happy where you spend a lot of time, even though most come bundled with usable bloatware. Really, the workspace suiting anyone should always be the main thing. Who cares who likes it and does not? They're not sitting in front of it every day, you are.

 

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If your DAW PC has an active internet connection, try Loopcloud or Splice.

Splice has many samples used in mainstream (if you want 'that' sound), while Loopcloud has fantastic integration into your workflow: bpm & key matching, AI to find similar samples, etc.

Personally, I find samples that come with DAWs to often be rather stale and dated sounding. That's just my opinion, of course.

 

I would not bother with included samples and VSTs, and rather focus on the functionality and intuitiveness It's better for you to feel confortable using a DAW and have all the functions you will need daily than have a bunch of samples, loops and effects that you will almost end up not using on the long run. It's better to search for third party sample packs that suits your needs and genre, and, if you get a third party effect bundle (fabfilter, izotope, DMG, Slate, etc) the chances are that it's quality will surpass your DAW's stock effects in terms of sound quality and versatility. Think of samples and VSTs that comes with DAWs as a bonus, but it's not important enough to make you choose between a daw or another, specially if you are going to actually purchase it.

 

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It is not the amount of plugins that come with a DAW that make it functional but, the quality of coding for the DAW & any included plugins.
Choose a DAW based on the type of music & production you will be doing.

Have you given Bitwig Studio 4 a look?

 

I think this is not an issue with the amount of samples/loops/presets or even their quality (after all, who doesn't customize any sound to fit their style and the track being worked on?) but the issue is actually finding the shit you want to use.

In short: Having a meaningful library of sounds, be them from a DAW library or something you made yourself requires some sort of curation.

First, good libraries have meaningful categories and tags, making it easier to pinpoint the sounds you like, then you have the user layer where you rank and tag the stuff yourself, and lastly is how you access the sounds (from the DAW itself, a filesystem browser, or an embedded browser in a plugin).

I'm not saying it's the only or the best way, but I think Ableton does this well with their sidebar browser and the ability to quickly drag the stuff you create and/or like to it to construct your own. Most DAWs do this in their way, however. Use what seems the most logical to you.

Stuff in Komplete/Kontakt/Maschine for instance is nicely tagged and categorized, and I'd imagine other large libraries/collections (Omnisphere, Arturia etc.) have similar things going for them.

 

Nope

Padshop and Retrologue come in full version with Cubase 11, with many libraries, Spectralayer comes in an SE version but it has the most important features. Same Halion Sonic SE and Groove Agent SE, whose complete versions are just for people who make sound libraries.