Toontrack SD3 "EQ" Terrible.. avoid it.

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  1. lasteno

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    this is how bad the the EQ from Toontrack is Programmed ,, if you Can Avoid It..
    it Introduces Very Strange "Distortions", I think Toontrack needs Help from a "Good Company to
    Program their SD3 "Effects" ..
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  3. DarkSound

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    I just checked in the same library with same settings and with Pro-Q3. I don't have this problem. SD 3.2.6, Studio One.
     
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    Re: "I think Toontrack needs Help from a "Good Company to
    Program their SD3 "Effects"

    Overloud Audio Tools is responsible developing Toontrack audio effects.
     
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    Just performed an EQ comparison yesterday to determine if SD3 internal EQ had really improved & found it to be lacking. The stock Reaper EQ performs better. Even at 18db, 24db & 48db slopes, the SD3 EQ does not perform as expected just from listening on studio monitors.

    I found early on in SD3 development that you are better of with external processing. AD2 & BFD3 on the other hand, have usable internal effects compared to SD3.
     
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  6. lasteno

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    it happens in mac.. not in windows.. very Strange..
     
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    I don't think it's the EQ causing that, it's probably the background noise from the sampler/SD3 itself. When you import a linear sweep test tone into SD3 on one of the drums and play it, it will have a lot of extra noise going on (even when you have no effects at all applied). Don't know why that is though. It makes a very weird pattern in the spectrogram. The noise also gets louder when there is more high frequency energy.

    And no, it's not aliasing.
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    A kind of intermodulation distortion? Like low bit depth? Hmmm sampler style, yeah, maybe..
     
  9. georgedalaras4

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    No problem with the EQ in PC. Works as expected. Solo you Crash but check if you have sound from another bus like Ambience etc.
     
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    Yeah, maybe. It looks a bit like how a bitcrusher effect looks, but not quite. I don't know why it would bit reduce the loaded sample though as I didn't have it set to the low quality 44.1kHz/16-bit mode. The sweep file itself is 48kHz/24-bit, just like SD3 is supposed to work at. Might be that you can't use custom samples in high quality mode in SD3 :dunno:

    Same here. From the pictures, it seems like he has muted the OH channel, but you can't see if he has muted any possible sends.

    @lasteno Try loading a completely blank SD3 project with no drums. Load one crash only and mute every channel and bus except it, place the EQ on the master channel (out 1/2) and then do the same test. If there really is a problem you should still get the same result. I don't have this problem on PC, but I don't own a Mac so can't do that test. It would be interesting to see your results.
     
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    If you want someone to take this seriously at least provide some info into exactly what kind of test you ran on it. I'm not a fan of the EQ but their EQ84 is pretty good.

    I tried running the EQ with a HPF on an overheads track from SD3, it performs pretty much the same as the Reaper EQ. Yes, high pass/low pass filters don't completely eliminate frequencies, but analyzer graphs make it look much worse than it actually is.
     
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    I just open the same project and the problem dissapear.. Very.. strange.. anyway.. if it appears again I will try to find a way to replicate it.
     
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