How can i "really" learn sound design?

Discussion in 'Working with Sound' started by Tag4rce7, Apr 30, 2015.

  1. geraldthegenius

    geraldthegenius Noisemaker

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    Also don't be afraid to spend HOURS on a patch. Especially with some of the bigger synths like Serum and Massive.

    That's how i've achieved some of my most craziest bass sounds. Just starring at the same synths for hours on end tweaking every parameter until...TITS! Sexy ear sexy sex sex bass wizardry achieved.

    As for tube tuts. Some of my favs are, SeamlessR,DJ Vespers, and Krux.

    Also note that alot of artist run live twitch music production streams nowadays and those are always fun. The things you learn from other producers in the chats alone can be gold.

    If you REALLY wanna get into some dirty bass/lead synth wizardry, im down to run a skype sesh or 2 with ya. Love teaching music production so it would be my pleasure.

    To get a idea of what I do best, heres what i've been workin on recently

    soundcloud.com/gerald-the-genius/body/s-IK7UP

    At the end of the day. Like most things worth having, you godda get in there in work your ass of for the sound you need.

    Best of luck to you and your future musical endeavors!!!
     
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  2. Tag4rce7

    Tag4rce7 Noisemaker

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    Thank you all for those replies! :)

    I made my first patch from scratch yesterday (took me 2 hours btw :bleh: ) not amazing, but pretty damn cool. Thanks for the advices :mates:
     
  3. Vince Bramich

    Vince Bramich Ultrasonic

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    any chance you could share it with us? I'd love to hear it.
    what did you use
     
  4. The LT

    The LT Ultrasonic

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    You're talking about synth programming which is a very specific area of sound design.
     
  5. jamzprod

    jamzprod Noisemaker

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    Look into all types of synthesis and practice. Avoid "How to make the bass on this song" tutorials, because most of the time, it limits your creativity and you end up learning tricks instead of learning to make your tracks expressive.
     
  6. Baxter

    Baxter Audiosexual

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    You haven't even scratched the surface, as they say.

    As a professional sound designer myself I feel both a bit sad and happy for you - Sad because you have such a long way to go, and happy because you have such a fun and exciting road ahead.
    Good luck and have fun!
     
  7. Pete

    Pete Member

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    He's spot on mate, reading books and watching tutorials is fantastic and will help, but sometimes just try to re-create a sound from any of your favourite tracks. You'll make 20 cool sounds on the way to making the sound you're going for. One day you'll end up using at least one of those 20. Get stuck in, I'm sure you're doing really well :)
     
  8. rhythmatist

    rhythmatist Audiosexual

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    Adobe----Audition works great. Pro tutorials for everything. The new version lets you import and edit to video without jumping to premier. But you know, I got a legit subscription, and it's been worth it. The people at PreSonus have a large tutorial library, too.
     
  9. Kaylix

    Kaylix Ultrasonic

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    +1 for Syntorial. It will give you a solid foundation. It teaches all about subtractive synthesis. Once you grasp that then you can move on to other kinds of synthesis. Just pick a synth that you like and use it a LOT, there is really no substitute for experience. Understanding all of the modules in a synth will teach you how the sound is changed by each one. Pay particular attention to your oscillators and filters, as they are the basic building blocks of the sounds that you generally hear. Once you have mastered that you can move on to envelopes, LFOs, and the modulation matrix. Stick with it, nothing worth doing comes easily. Good luck!
     
  10. ovalf

    ovalf Platinum Record

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    Sometimes people think a lot in fx when talk about sound design.
    Many software have a random key but its not design right?
    Its about intention, Conscience and finally: basics.
    Many companies do preset packs that emulate other soft and hardware.
    This is the mater ability, do the same preset in in every hardware and software.
    Mimic filters is the post graduation, sometimes imposible.
     
  11. LunaX

    LunaX Member

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    i have always found it extremely difficult to make the sounds i hear in my head..so what i have done and will continue doing is storing presets in my own little way...that way if i am looking for a clav sound i can go to my preset folder labelled as 'clavs' and select a soft-synth (similar sounding presets are stored in separate synth folders - its time consuming but it pays off) and start loading presets..when i find something that is similar to what i am looking for i start tweaking..mostly i fail but i am still not deterred..

    nowadays i imagine a sound and then start tweaking Massive in my head..that way the imagined sound is somewhat realistic..i guess i am managing my expectations now...

    anyways i would suggest personally to make atleast one synth your bitch..by bitch i mean total domination...i have worked Massive for more than a month now and understand what can and cannot be done in massive...in another month or two i will have good control over both my expectations and my bitch!

    and then there are some books you can find in the sister site...list of books i am reading

    synth porn - Mark Vail - The Synthesizer. A Comprehensive Guide to Understanding, Programming, Playing, and Recording the Ultimate Electronic Music Instrument

    the 101 class -
    Synthesizer Basics by Dean Friedman
    Simon Cann - Becoming a Synthesizer Wizard. From Presets to Power User - 2009

    the one i cannot understand - Andy Farnell - Designing Sound - 2010


    hope this helps...
     
  12. HETISFRANK

    HETISFRANK Producer

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    I don't know if it has been suggested already, but I'd advise to check out SeamlessR on YouTube. He has lots of tutorials to go through and some may be too advanced for you at the beginning. But you can easily start at the production basics tutorials he has done a couple months back and work up from there.

    I've seen quite a few tutorials on sound design to help me get through the learning curve faster and most of them were at least somewhat useful (stuff like ADSRSounds, Groove3 and some BassGorilla) but I think his stuff was easily the best when it comes to explaining actual sound design. It's also a huge bonus that all of it is free to access since he just uses YouTube.
     
  13. Medrewb

    Medrewb Platinum Record

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    In my opinion SeamlessR is the best at sound designing (from stuff that I have watched).. his youtube channel is filled with sound designing tutorial but 90% is Fl Studio Stock synth... He is a real genius!
     
  14. Like Baxter said;
    "Understand how sound is made, percieved and disected. Visualize sound, as in X/Y axis."
    Also as you go ahead in your familiarity with sound design don't forget the Z axis, that which lets the listener perceive depth, the front to back of the soundstage. To use microphones to achieve this is an artform unto itself. ITB to create this too is a skill, using combinations of eq, reverb and/or delays and time alignment. It must be a never ending and joyous love affair to keep on learning and experimenting, understanding that mistakes are a good thing because they oft time lead us in directions that we would never have been drawn to.
     
  15. Mr_Amine

    Mr_Amine Rock Star

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    there is 2 types of sound design : Organic Sounds & Electronic Sounds
    i was so lucky to be invited by a friend who works in the behind the scene i was blown away
    just take a look and watch it till the end
    i put video below just in case if you want to go extreme with sound design and considerate a job in the future

     
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  16. jon.dough.1991

    jon.dough.1991 Producer

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    grab any virtual synthh VSTi you like its gui , Serum,Massive,Vanguard and download Audible Genius syntorial Tutu, in less than a month if you are lucky i will be reading bout you , newcomer goint to beach topless with most beautiful women , ibiza cryin for his return and whatnot
     
  17. Rockseller

    Rockseller Platinum Record

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    design sounds
     
  18. joem

    joem Producer

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    there layerd as in using multiple synths to make that one sound, toi get you going thougfh there not that hard to make there just saw waves with pitch modulation
     
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