Warning: Focusrite Fast by VR

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  1. DoubleTake

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    Hmmm.. I suppose your groupies will agree..
    LOL
    Go on Mr FIXIT, tell us all how to fix this with Latencymon or some other irrelevant advice as usual.
    How about a link to the manufacturer's website or to the VST manual?
    Maybe I should reinstall Windows? ... or reset my router?
    Ensure that my PC is plugged in?
    Whatever, dood... :rofl:
     
  2. FrankPig

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    Related (or maybe not): yesterday I downloaded a rar of a PDF of Electronic Sound from the torrent site that ends in "news". Uploaded by the main uploader there, so it's trusted.
    Defender flagged it as Trojan:Win32/Tnega!ml and deleted it. On a PDF???
    I downloaded again, same thing. Third time, nothing - no detection, no deleting of file. I then downloaded the same file on a different PC and did not receive the same warning and deletion from Win Defender.

    Defender also flagged and deleted the kg for the RET FabFilter release 6 days ago as Trojan:Win32/Wacatac.B!ml, and as far as I'm aware, this was the same as the older July 2020 R2R kg. I then used my archived keygen from the previous R2R release and Defender once again flagged it. I've run it in the past with no problems. It can't have magically become a trojan while it's been sitting fermenting on my separate Archive HD. So I ignored Defender and allowed it to run.

    Could it be a recent Windows Defender update has made it a little too... enthusiastic and over-zealous, causing it to spew these false positives? Pure speculation on my side BTW.
     
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  3. EddieXx

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    nope, you are right. AV:s are not particularly intelligent at all, they apply pretty crude checking routines and even lists that flagg certain behaviors until they update and clean those, happens all the time.

    they are designed to trust certified signed programs, not installers that do extra* stuff..
     
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  4. SineWave

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    I think that's a great idea to provide a SHA256 hash/checksum number for every release at the sister site. It should be a rule. :wink:
     
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  5. GabsIT

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    I did't read all the posts but by the lastest info I pressume, that the crack overwrite a dll or a registry key to a dll or something of that nature so the fix could be simply reinstall the latest c++ redist library to fix problems with other plugins.

    I see this happens a lot, and in coding we called it a hack, not because you are hacking into a system but becasue it's fixing something in a very fast, dirty way that it works but without the knowledge of why it works or the real issues behind the problems.

    in relation to libraries sometimes it's a mess because at the beggining to speed up the development you use a lot of free or open source libraries but these are in constant change so you need to keep upgrading your code, normally stable libraries are backwards compatible, but with open source you will never know, sometimes inclusive with popupar projects as mozilla a new head of marketing have the power to create a real mess in specifications and change everything and well for the guy that is coding a vst plugin for a company it's easier to hardcode his code to use just the version that it works with his code, then he don't need to do updates but then a vulnerability in the library will never been applied because the code is stuck in an old version of that particular library, sometimes that is why some aplications are so easy to crack.

    Then a cracker will not fix a code problem (sometimes they do) so the hardcoded library need to be used and as is obviously more challenging or add more entropy, the crack could mess with the libraries installed in the computer as rewriting an updated version of a library with an old one that obviously will create trouble.

    now all this is just one posible scenario but one very probably, so that is why i think that just reinstalling the redist libraries should fix any problem as described in this post

    Another thing crackers will rarely check compatibility with old OS versions, and for anyone reporting problems, it's important to be clear from where you download from and what is your OS version, my guess is that people with problems are using win 7 or another old or non standard OS version.
    windows defender is relatively good but naturaly will report any crack or keygen as dangerous virus.
     
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  6. BEAT16

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    Thanks to you @GabsIT for the information!
     
  7. dbmuzik

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    I looked inside the installer as well, and the same.. nothing virus related.

    To those who are troubleshooting: based on the common factor described.. the antivirus protection (notably Windows Defender) is conflicting with these audio apps and keygens because they don't have Microsoft trusted certificates. In most cases the apps need "vcruntime140.dll" and "msvcp140.dll" in order to run. Although these two drivers are in your system32 folder, they are not essential to Windows itself (If you boot in safe mode they won't be there.. but possibly if you choose safe mode with networking).

    What happens is each time you run an app with no trusted certificate the antivirus considers these drivers as part of that app. It will block access to these drivers, and maybe even remove them in some scenarios based on user preference/settings in the AV. So you run some app that needs these drivers, and you may see a prompt from Windows that these drivers the app needs are missing. But Windows itself is the reason they are missing. Defender is blocking the app from accessing them, or has automatically removed them based on the setting in Defender perhaps. Then you can't just go about your business because you have other things that may call upon those same drivers, and now you're discovering things elsewhere that aren't working properly because Defender removed or still has these drivers tied up in the background.

    Those who choose to network on the same OS you do your music: I suggest you need to loosen some restrictions on your PC if that's the way you want to work. You may just have to create a small security gap somewhere if you want your music and network world to co-exist. You can start the regular routine of having your AV turned on only when you use your network browser, and never running any warez software at the same time. Turn the AV off before you launch any warez apps, and keep it off the whole time you have those apps running (including your DAW). Or, go in Windows Defender's settings, and if the option is there, set it to ignore/exclude "vcruntime140.dll" and "msvcp140.dll" to start with. Otherwise, install better AV software, or start buying all your audio software.
     
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  8. Arabian_jesus

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    Correct. Exactly what I said in a previous post :) V.R's latest release for the Arturia FX bundle had the same problem, and I know it has happened before as well. With the Arturia release, V.R did post a rev2 that didn't have this problem so it's not like he doesn't care, I just think that nobody has commented about this particular issue with this release until now.
     
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  9. MozartEstLa

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    My policy is: every download goes into a virtual machine (VMware Player) - I'm using Total Uninstall for installation analysis, then I create mine installer (aka internal repack) by using Setup Factory 9.5. No issue at the moment.
     
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