I was like, Damn, that guy Mykal looked a hell of a lot like Jacques Brel.
Then I realized it was a YouTube video, not a picture of the deceased.

Ah well. Who's next?

 

The words of the french-belgian singer and composer Jacques Brel, in the video I posted earlier:

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are very profound and deserve to be known, this song (which is like an incredibly beautiful poem about death) is the last he sang before dying from a lung cancer.

When I lost my father, this album "Les Marquises" was the only thing that someway "comforted" me, that let me feel some sort of "support", even if the singer is no more here since longtime.

(can't find the exact words here (English is particularly difficult sometimes), hence the quotes, but perhaps you'll understand someway my point)

 

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I really don't care about your opinion biased by ridiculous beliefs which are founded on nothing more than this obsessive denial that one day our insignificant existence will come to an end.
So take a beer, calm down and rest in peace... far away from my thoughts.
Very personally yours.

 

Everyone is very, very different when it comes to death. Everyone feels differently, live differently, become resilient to the trauma of the loss, or not. Some suffers more as the time pass, for others (I hope sincerely it's your case) it's the opposite, they learn how to live with the deads as they have learned to live with the livings, with a sort of growing "acceptance", of "tolerance" towards their misses.

Ultimately, we should talk about the miss itself (I talk about the profound, inner sensation of missing our loved ones, a sensation that cannot be intellectualized), how everyone is so different about it.

We have to respect everyone's impressions, sensations, emotions, ideas and points of view about the death. There is personal philosophies (religions, traditions, cultures, etc...) on one side, and on the other side what everyone really, actually feel. The last one is the most important, seen from my point.

 

I am an atheist and have no denial that each of us will die and leave nothing physical behind but our dead bodies, but it IS ridiculous to believe that people do not leave behind physical descendants and influences via the things they have done and relationships had that WILL HAVE PHYSICAL impact on reality into the future, both for god and bad.
It is also the utmost idiocy to claim that human existence is "insignificant".
What is "significant" may be judged by the mass of energy of matter, or by frivolous and silly human judgements of what matters.

I became cynical about life over the years until at late 30's had something wake me up.
I didn't realize i'd become cynical...i thought i was much to humble to judge the world .. or life. ...
I knew i hadn't the knowledge or judgment to do that ... even for my own life...
But the BRAIN WILL MAKE its judgments. It doesn't care about claims of humility.

So, I had judged... and judged life as pretty pointless and maybe even a pathetic thing, considering all of the universe and reality.
That was the "tough" view. The hard and real view.
But something happened that made me look again and I could not deny a valid example that fucked up my theory about life.
I began to write and not even check what I wrote...i wanted to look back and see where what i thought was wrong...
I began to look for answers ...
But first i had to look for ways to even be able to judge what was valid and not ...
Part of my cynicism is that even the "experts" with all the facts before them will often disagree... even in such a fucking "clean" area as math..
So I found skepticism, and began to get clear about how and why people are wrong and how to figure out who to trust in what areas and to what degrees. That helped pull me out of cynicism, and be more realistic about my view of reality and life.
Skepticism helped me to understand humans nearly as much as studying psychology and history.
It let me forgive humans, in ways i had not even considered.. to know WHAT we REALLY ARE is one thing....but gives nothing by which to judge life...
But to know where we REALLY STAND in our relative history is another thing, and gives a much TRUER picture and hence a more valid judgment of WHAT MATTERS ...what is SIGNIFICANT (outside pure physics).
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I Thai woman once told me "Humans give meaning to everything".
Transitioning from a cynical view of the world, I took it first to mean that we read to much meaning into everything.
But I also realized an element of fact i could not find a way around: We DO GIVE THE MEANING TO everything ... for our own reality.
It is only OUR judgment that CAN give meaning for US, and for the beetle, HIS judgments for what is meaningful to a beetle.
To deny THAT is lunacy...idiocy...pathological cynicism.

If nothing matters, why the FUCK are you typing such bullshit - LOL . Pathetic.
Just leave. Nothing matters.. Leave this world. NOW. DO IT.

So, again, don't YOU tell ME anything about any of this.
I KNOW what you are and why you have such a bad attitude.
I have no pity.
WAKE UP FOOL!

 

I think after this explanation, anyone can someway understand your differences in terms of POV, @DoubleTake and @The Revenant but is this verbal violence necessary?

You cannot say to someone: "Leave this world. NOW. DO IT". Never. Ever. This should be forbidden words. You crossed a line here.

 

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How did this turn into a "my high school philosophy has a bigger dick than your high school philosophy" shout-out match?

 

I CAN and DID. I may be banned for it, but your claim that i "cannot say to someone".
I expect to be warned at least, if not banned, but I think it was worth it if the fool reconsiders his arrogant and ignorant view of life.
I know I wish someone had said it to ME, when I was the same kind of fool.

.. and what are You some snowflake?
Do you think I was being serious or realistic with my suggestion?
So many so easily triggered..
My words are DEADLY now are they?
PATHETIC.

 

You're vertainly right, I MUST be a pathetic snowflake.

I don't have the right to feeling HURT by useless verbal violence.

My sensibility MUST be absolutely forbidden.

 

There'll be a funeral for this thread soon...

 

I love Jacques Brel. He's the greatest thing to come out of Belgium, IMO. I have no idea what he's singing about unless an English person covered the song and there's a translation -- but the interpretations are generally massively inferior to Brel's originals. Scott Walker and the Sensational Alex Harvey Band did a good job, but everyone else -- including Bowie -- pretty lame in comparison.

I'm sorry for the loss of your father.

 

Thank you very much @BuntyMcCunty, at least some humanity here!

Here's a video of the same song with the lyrics translated in English:

If ever one day you read translations of other songs from him perhaps you'll realize that the guy talk often about death (he knew very early he have cancer), but often in sarcarstic / humouristic terms (the guy on stage had a particular, theatrical humor his true fans adore), or, like in this song above, very poetic / philosophic terms.

(The only thing I can't agree in the Artist's fine lyrics is near the end, there's a bitter, and a little mysoginist, - short - verse about women (or more precisely, about feminism) but in fact I think it is just words, I know quite well his biography, and AFAIK no woman close to him during his lifetime ever complained about him behaving like a macho, so I think in fact it is just that: words.)

Why I suggested this song? Because of Mykal's passing. I didn't know this guy, but many guys/gals here seems to have really, actually appreciated his presence and personality, so I wanted to share something touching the heart and soul, something for those who remains.

 

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Do these guys go to heaven or hell?

 

Hell of course.
But they cracked heaven back in 2013, so....