BEST Windows version for DAW/Music Mixing?

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BEST Windows version for DAW/Music Mixing?

  1. Windows 11

    17.5%
  2. Windows 10

    57.1%
  3. Windows 7

    20.6%
  4. Windows 8.1

    4.8%
  1. Crinklebumps

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    I expect nothing.
     
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    Windows itself is built upon trash, I don't understand your question :dunno:
     
  3. raps

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    My vote is Windows 10, however I believe that Windows 11 once it is optimised will be the best OS to date, as it should work very well with Ram and the latest CPU's extremely well.
     
  4. civilizedproducer

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    it's not just the Windows Defender. it happened to me with some VR releases on my recently-retired laptop (i had also made a thread asking for help), that some setups will show "Out of memory" error while some others will install perfectly. i had the problem with Guitar Rig 6 and Autotune Pro. they installed without any issues on my new laptop with the 21H1 update.
     
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  5. BEAT16

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    Windows 1.0 first publ. 11.20.1985 --> Windows 10 first publ. 08.29.2015 --> Today 08.12.2012 --> 35 Years Windows

    The best version is always the last, i.e. Windows 10! If there weren't always these small mistakes, the many manufacturers of many components also make mistakes or cannot agree on a standard.
    Actually, the whole thing is a miracle that it works at all and that we can communicate with anyone who has such a device.
     
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    ive been using win10 for a while on my notebook for audio stuff. everything seems to work well with ableton. And as L11 with 11.0.5 finally had better performation, it works.

    With Win 8.1 on the desktop im getting problems with support for various synths/FX i bought, but it works otherwise also well.

    For win11 i dont know i would wait minimum a year to install it and use it.

    So for the moment Win10 still on 20H0. always being behind on win update.
     
  7. demberto

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    Win 7 seems like a distant memory now
     
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    If you want a lightweight os then windows 8.1. I use 8.1 and 10 but 8.1 is lighter. Both are really stable.
     
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    Someone installs plugins on Win10 via installer and send you vst2 dll and vst3. And you drop them there in your vst folder on Win7. Keygen/regfile or so to activate. And it works) Reelight pro, for example, and some other new plugins.
    Someone gave me them.
     
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    Who cares about supported ?????
    Have you ever contacted microsoft about any problem with your windows other than maybe need a new key if you had installed it more than 3 times and had a win version that was tied to the hardware?
     
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    Seems to be working much better than my mac pro (5500$) ever did that shit was real trash not to mention the hardware
    It has a broken usb port the dvd wont open any more shitty screen connection
    Is that quality??
    Yeah trash quality
     
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    Or just run the justfun598 patch that comes with the release on sister site as it replaces the dll and vst3 files you wont have any presets (if they have presets?) though
     
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    are you talking about almost 10 years old MacPro, the last with DVD drive? :rofl:
     
  14. Strat4ever

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    I am just a guitarist who loves to play keyboards and other instruments using a guitar, I do have quite a few VSTi plugins and FX & Amp sims that I use with Jam Origin MIDI guitar 2, but I arrange and keep my setups as minimal as possible to avoid latency issues, I only use instruments that are not resource hungry as I use my setup to play live at jam sessions, I will sometimes try out and use a new VSTi, but as I previously stated I can't and don''t overdo it , I can't have my setup crash live, but if it ever did I could still continue on anyways with just my guitar.
     
  15. Ad Heesive

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    In favour of DEDICATED platforms.
    TLDR: a long rant in favour of dedicated platforms and an opinion that Operating Systems are the most irrelevant, least important, part of the whole game. Asking me to choose 'which OS' just feels like a crazy false question!

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    @Strat4ever - nice answer (not as entertaining as @Xupito pretending he's not an addict - but a nice serious answer)
    You describe a nice example of a system that is DEDICATED to a specific task - in this case "be a guitarist's toolkit".
    I share that DEDICATED approach. I use multiple machines.
    They started breeding in a studio many years ago - now they breed in my house. They breed faster than guitars. :)

    With all the different aspects of music, the idea of 'trying to do it all' on a single machine just seems pointless and totally out of date, especially when old machines cost less than peanuts.

    I prefer to work with multiple platforms rather than single machines.
    A platform is a dedicated set of software that does a specific set of music tasks.
    Each platform is DEDICATED - absolutely NOT trying to be multi-purpose and do everything.
    Each platform is implemented using several identical cloned PCs.
    So, I NEVER suffer if and when a specific PC breaks. It's merely an inconvenience.

    Platforms include:-
    Guitar companions, Keyboard companions, Writer companions, Studio platforms, Experimental platforms. Domestic platforms
    Guitar companions - similar(ish) to the one described by @Strat4ever
    These have crazy interfacing requirements with a variety of guitar hardware gizmos and dedicated mini-mixers, etc. Low spec PC's are totally adequate. I currently use Win 7 but used to get by fine with XP. I only switched from XP to Win7 because I was rebuilding the guitar companion platform from scratch so why not update the OS at that time (and 64-bit Win 7 has obvious advantages 32-bit XP)

    Keyboard companions
    These sit next to keyboards in various rooms. They are NOT studio machines. They need to handle midi brilliantly but have very minimal audio requirements. Again, currently using Win 7 but used to work totally fine with low spec XP machines.

    Writer companions
    Some of these are antique 10" netbooks. They run XP and have 1GB ram. One of these lives permanently in my car! They have lots and lots of neat midi software, (especially styles-oriented software) and almost no audio production software whatsoever. They enable dabbling with and capturing musical ideas - that's the only thing they ever need to do and they do it really well!

    Studio platforms
    These are the only machines that are high spec. They are Win 7, streamlined, optimised, etc. They are not cluttered with all the bags of tricks that the above companions use. They are dedicated to DAW-based music production. They receive music files (midi and audio) from the above companions. These are heavily loaded with interesting plugins but that's still ONLY a very small subset of the plugins that have been proven to be useful and reliable on other experimental platforms.

    NONE of the above platforms ever connect to the Internet and none of them run any security software. They can (when required) all talk to each other on a local area network only.

    Note how there is a real difference between the writer-player-oriented platforms and the production-oriented platforms. There are some overlaps but they are still dedicated to different stages of music development.

    Experimental platforms
    Some new, many old. These are the sluts that are allowed out onto the Internet. They are where all new plugins get installed and explored. They are a chaotic mess. They occasionally get ravaged or devastated and then get quickly restored from archived system images, etc. These use XP, Win7, Win10, just whatever is required for the experiment.
    They are also riddled with Virtual Machine (VM) experiments. Also includes a few old Macs and two Hackintoshes. These OSX boxes exist solely to have access to Logic Pro which (personally) gets used only as an experimenter's beautiful toy rather than as a production DAW.

    Domestic platforms
    These are just typical dumb consumer platforms. Mostly dual boot Win7/Win10 but still have a few XP/WIN7 dual boot boxes. The idea of using any of these lazy configurations for real music production would be laughable - but they're great for domestic and Internet use.
    The most important observation that I've made, for ages, from all of the above is that the Operating System is the most irrelevant, least important, part of the whole game. When setting up dedicated systems, ALL of the interesting (and time consuming) stuff happens at a layer above the OS. The only thing the OS needs to do is be stable, be efficient, and then f#*k off out of the way and stop being an irrelevant hassle.

    So, of course I will dabble with, and keep up to date with, and enjoy whatever Win 11 turns out to be, but I will also piss myself laughing at anyone who tries to tell me that my Win 7 studio production platforms are out of date or that my writer companions using XP are not beautiful toys that I will keep forever.

    The idea of choosing between operating systems is just a false question (or should be).
    Better to just gain some mastery of your platforms then recognise that the OS is mostly irrelevant - all the serious stuff happens after you've buried your OS and forgotten about it.
     
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    There are basically two types of people working with music.
    First type is the person that has an all in one system and occasionally does music and wants to have it all updated with a new OS and everything else.
    The second type is the person that works a lot on music and works on older OS because he has a workflow that works and would not want to compromise the stability and workflow.
    This is why many professional studios still have older systems, stability and reliance is crucial and there is no need to compromise it.
     
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    I am not even sure why people upgrade for no reason (not only music-related), especially on Mac (where plugins may not work for months or never work again, if developer abandoned them).
     
  18. DoubleTake

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    Exactly!
    You just need dozens of machines and to be a genius to set up and maintain it all!
     
  19. Xupito

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    Holy Molly, didn't know this. All my plugins and DAWs are no install but I'm on windows 10.
    Sounds like programmed obsolescence at its worst.
     
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    Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019 Windows 10, Version 21H2 11/16/2021

    *This version fixes the FLS Slot limitations

    Look for {Gen2} version coming soon!
     
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