Everyone able to make music = saturated dying industry?

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  1. Colin

    Colin Producer

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    ask yourself. if the world went post-apocalyptic tomorrow, and you had a very basic caveman existence with no power or computers or internet. would you still hear original music in your head? or bother to do anything about it? when you take away "dreams", "delusions", what are you left with? Don't be bitter or sad about something you had no realistic chance of achieving in a million lifetimes not happening. Enjoy what you do and deal with the fact that music will always move on. Possibly without much input from humans from here on in. Feel sorry for the handful of geniuses out there who have genuinely been robbed due to sheer weight of numbers of wanabees.
     
  2. BEAT16

    BEAT16 Audiosexual

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    Why not start to revive the 80s or New Wave, maybe with a touch of 2000 years - the quality of the plugins and the recording quality has become very good. It would therefore not sound like the 80s but in 2021, for example. We basically cleared all styles of music and re-recorded and modernized all old songs. In the meantime, all data about music are being analyzed, including the musicians themselves.

    Above all, you want to sell your products or business models to consumers. Spotify is a newer business model. Everything virtual and immaterial. I once read that there are a lot of good musicians who are masters of their instruments, but who are not so good at arranging them. So the arrangement has to be learned.

    I've now made radio plays - a CD full of them. However, I cannot publish it because it contains dozens of copyright violations. I gave them away privately and I felt very good about them. I don't think our future consists of making money with music. There will be more customization - that means everyone will find what they need and the data analysis leads to new products. If the products cannot be sold - the company and the product disappear. Back to the roots?
     
  3. Colin

    Colin Producer

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    music was never about making money!

    it's entertainment. in some cases it's art!
     
  4. loCurnus

    loCurnus Ultrasonic

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    Actually this is an old problem. The Loudness war, and the Templates (most DJs are using own Remixes of Tracks, because of (c)right sucking). Today you get your Remixpacks from Producer, to do more c&p stuff.

    A lot of the "Mixing and Mastering Physix" tutorials at youtube are still physically wrong.

    If you want to learn about a Kick, learn how a Sub Woofer or a PA is working:worked at the past.

    On the last end it is music from Electricity. :)

    And Apple, Youtube, Spoofyfy, etc have there own tools to "promote" the same track there personal way. There own recipe for polishing a polished finally well mastered track on there platform, if it was a good mastering balancing.

    The Saturation is just one aspect of clipping in traxx and in the industry.

    It is "too simple" to use vst plugins the wrong way. (Is there a MAKE MUSIC button on some of the Infected Mushroom Plugs??)

    A lot of Acts wanted fresh nice music not from arrangement just by technical stuff, Scratchy, Loud and WhiteNoized Stuff.

    One Track sounds like the others.... Not because of sampling others Track Instruments. The problem for me is, the missing innovation to do your own stuff...

    Do you know how hard it was to do (over 25 years old) Westbams Celebration Generation to Bounce? With the old leaky Clap machine and less than 20 Tracks that time? Wif an Old Cubase and latency all around the hardware?

    I was so hopefully, more digital tools&faster Bouncing = more creativity.... but that did not work in most cases.

    You have Tools with a kind of Style Branding. "My Track should sound like ...... (for trance: Armin, Vandit & Co)".
    It is the wrong way to use Reference analysing tools, instead of creative OWN working pipe. And it is since 15 years now, that the industry is simple a kind of copy and paste.. "the style" of others. Not everywhere, but a lot i guess.

    Music is now a fast instant product, not a historical time stamp about an act, anymore. Apple I-store, I-mer, etc, are not as helpful as you think, for learning how music should work. On an very old Loveparade Gig (Berlin Germany) i remembered a DJ be4 me playing , who used 128kbps MP3 Audios for his set. Then he started playing with the Bass/Mid/High to "correct" the tracks quality lost.

    Now, most of the Djs have learned to use uncompressed Audios for Digital Work (Sets etc) , not as Max Loud as you can.

    Its the quality, not the quantity you should focus on. Learn to use more EQs instead of multiband Bending stuff.. You can Produce quality track with 5-7 Tracks in Ableton. If you cant prey your emotional messages in 5-7 track, you cant fix it wif 10-100 Tracks.

    The emotional transportation will not work.

    Actually since Discogs and Co you are able to see so many, many chuck stuff... There always was Chuck stuff in the past, but you did not had the connection to this databases at your past, if you bought some records at your local record dealer ages of years ago.

    To do music was expensive.... You had to learn your Hardware&tools still another way than today. Today you can work more precise wif f.e. Fabfilter Q3 with around 100 +Points to set (and resize) for your Audiotrack.

    Not much are doing this. They use tables where to cut, and when to boost, not custom for there tracks, no.... from web tutorial not from feeling there music.

    Actually if you want to do music, then do your very own stuff.... Learn Physix, but always remember, doing Music is a very intimate Procedure.
    What do you want to tell or present with your track. Do you want to present some unique Techstuff (unique!!new!!nice!!unbelivable!) or do you want to present some nice Vocals, what do you want to transport? No one helps a copy from a copy from Armin, or stuff like that.

    For me is more impressing a Bad produced Track, with a nice Idea. i know acts that are actually do "ASCII Painting" in there Arrangements in Ableton. Painting funny stuff, in Audiostyle, that sounds some wired but is fresh.

    In some years you can use Algos to create "a HITTRACK" by math.... No need for this, but upcoming Acts still focus on that kind of Doing there music. Too much senseless Learning input!

    But do not flame, its just my opinion. Music should always bring People together for a short "quality" time, to do:listen:dance for: music. Its like the same for Djing. They should work together with the Audience not apart and have followers.

    There is no need for so much tech stuff, if you have nice well done Patches, and a good balancing and tricky little Production Working (effect creating etc..)in your productions.

    WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SHOW THE AUDIENCE FRESH AND UNIQUE IN YOUR TRACKS?
     
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  5. BuntyMcCunty

    BuntyMcCunty Rock Star

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    I started screwing around with making music when Rebirth was released -- so I guess it's, what, 20 years now? I've got a shedload of warez and a house full of hardware -- but I'm under no illusion that nobody would ever want to actually *listen* to the shit that I make. Hell, I wouldn't even listen to it myself. For me, the pleasure all exists in the act of making it. I'd rather be making something new than listening to my old stuff.

    But I think the democratization of music-making technology is fantastic because it means that skill isn't a barrier to creating something any more. Regardless of whether it's to your tastes or not, look at that guy who made Old Town Road. Bought a beat for $50, laid a vocal over it and had the biggest selling record in the last ten years. The barrier to becoming rich and famous today is ideas, not technology. If you've got good ideas, you too can be the next Lil Uzi Vert.
     
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  6. giacomino

    giacomino Noisemaker

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    thank you for the welcome, very happy to be here on this interesting board, all the best to all of you! <3
     
  7. Rockseller

    Rockseller Platinum Record

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    Watts talkin' about music (philosophical approach and cool talk. the mic must be awesome man i love the sound and his voice omg)

    imo an industry of something that can be monetized will not die as long as the primate of economy exists

    i don't get the point/problem
    you need money? you can't make music?

    whatever, it is what it is... i want that mic

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  8. MarkyMW

    MarkyMW Platinum Record

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    totally agree with the idea of the con of the "it's coming" and yeh - that gravel in his voice - great sound
     
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