It's quite impressive as it's orchestrated music, so hard to tell

 

People build robots that should make your life easier. We are right in the middle of it, in the transition to the total digital world. Ultimately, the new digital is a gigantic business. If someone rings the doorbell in 15 years, you must first check whether this is a machine.

 

we are the Global Useless Class

 

impressive and fucking scary at the same time

 

I remember the introduction of the first sampler in a fm radio show, it's just technology, use it in your favor.



https://magenta.tensorflow.org/pianogenie

 

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Technological singularity explained by Ray Kurzweil

Ray Kurzweil, The Technological Singularity And The Future Of Humanity!

Raymond "Ray" Kurzweil is an American author, inventor, futurist and director of engineering at Google LLC. He is considered a pioneer in optical character recognition (OCR), speech synthesis (computer read-out texts), speech recognition, flatbed scanner technology and in the field of electronic musical instruments, especially keyboards. As a well-known non-fiction author, he writes, among other things. about health, artificial intelligence (AI) transhumanism, technological singularity and futurology.


Kurzweil Music Systems In 1983, Raymond founded Kurzweil Music Systems in the USA.

The production of synthesizers that were able to produce natural sounds of good quality was a great challenge at that time. The idea of founding a company for electronic musical instruments arose out of the friendship with the blind musician Stevie Wonder. He had heard of Kurzweil's Reading Machine in 1976 and then contacted him. Encouraged by Wonder, Kurzweil launched the so-called Kurzweil K250 in 1984.

This revolutionary instrument produced the sounds of various acoustic instruments in a quality that was outstanding for its time. As a thank you for the musical support, Raymond Kurzweil produced a special model of the K250 for Stevie Wonder that could be controlled by voice commands. The successor to the K250, as well as the last keyboard of the company under Kurzweil, was the K1000 from 1988. However, it was only built briefly because Kurzweil Music Systems sold it to the Korean Young Chang Akki Co. Ltd. in 1989. was sold, but retained the brand name "Kurzweil".

 

This topic will keep on arriving - for very good and very bad reasons
Resistance is futile and necessary
https://audiosex.pro/threads/music-will-change-in-a-decade-says-vinod-khosla.44595/

https://www.aiva.ai/

www.youtube.com/watch?v=td5D5tpqBzc

 

When AI takes over, the movie "The Matrix" will no longer be a fiction...( as if it isn`t already... )
I`m gonna be a vegetable, rich and have plenty of time for bowling...

 

It's interesting but from AI algorithms, classical music is specially easy to make, with well defined rules and rhythms, a vast database well categorized and also this exclude human voice, human voice is specially hard to synthesis and as in pop music it's the first and the most important thing to make a hit, people with some experience about listening good music will naturally point out quality differences between a good musical interpretation and a bad one, using similar patterns to recognize a good singer from a bad one, and this increase with experience, there are tons of free music everywhere, but the fact that it's free make it unattractive, then after listen a while most of it it's not refined or monotonal or based in other composers then it's very hard to find something interesting or attractive, with AI music will happen the same, also there is always someone selecting parts, filling the app with data, testing and well still a lot of work, now random people is very stupid about everything, just how much people believe in non sense conspiracy theories, religions, alternative medicine, astrology and rolling stones (I talk from personal experience lol)

Oh well forget anything I said, at least the drummer seems human?
virtual diva concert

This one from Camellia, same vocaloid

 

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Hm, I don't agree that "classical music" is easy to replicate (unless you intentionally write something that copies the style of certain composer) and define using rules - they have just dumped tons of classical midis into their AI algorithms, so the output is plagiarizing (even if unintentionally) to some extent something already existing; if anything classical is the hardest type of music to make, because you need non-static music that develops in time in coherent manner unlike most pop/rock/electronic which is based usually on several well defined loops.
You can check on your own this Aiva site (from where 2 set of violins sourced their AI compositions) and try to generate several songs with it for free or listen to other compositions on Aiva youtube - its output is generic to trash in 99% of the time, so "AI" won't take the job of musicians any time soon unless they radically upgrade their algorithms in some manner. In the best case I can see it being used as a foundation for music that uninspired/unfamiliar with certain genre composers can use.

Btw, Vocaloid uses samples from human singers, so it has nothing to do with speech algorithms: the crappy manner it is sequenced by real humans makes it sound unnatural; I have always thought it is way easier to learn to sing than master such hard program.

 

Do you know how "machine learning" works? it's not plagiarism at all, it's similar to the relations that a human could do when listening or seeing something, first finding patterns or relations between to virtual objects and repeat until the prediction it's similar to a human or another expected result, your comment gave me the impression that you talk about coping musical segments and then pasting them together it's possible tho but doesn't work that way.

About Machine Learning
This is quite short and easy to understand, the accent a bit odd.

About AI
I used AI in many areas, it's not like selling your soul to terminator, AI is just an extension of programming, a useful tool, there is always someone guiding or programming the AI to reach certain objective, it's not like in the movies where AI it's comparable to human intelligence, I don't mean it's not possible, but then you have a huge gap between intelligence and consciousness as we don't even know what consciousness really is there is no way to replicate something that is not understood, no patterns, formulas nor data and maybe this could be a dead end as could be undecidable

AI on music DIY test
This video is pretty dope, it's a nice tutorial about how to use Magenta Studio for Ableton Live (850 MB aprox, free) as it's hard to tell what the different modules do at the beginning, the stand alone version feed from midi files and generate midi files as result, in that way there is no need to use a DAW only a basic midi reader/writer it's enough.

BTW the only thing it's not explained it's drumify, he didn't used it right, it means to be used with a midi melody not with a percussion midi, so the thing that does is add percussion based on the rhythms of the melody, some rhythms are really cool.

There are many videos on youtube and it's not that complicate, I used it a lot just trying to mess with the logic feeding odd things, the issue is that uses a static data base of musical information, I tried to do my own but It requires to install a lot of stuff and it's heavy in resource usages so in this case I prefer to used the app until I get a more powerful laptop.

I should start a new thread about this?
Bonus: https://www.asimovinstitute.org/analyzing-deep-learning-tools-music/

 

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You are implying that this is the only way to use AI for composition when it is not and it can also give results that will result in plagiarism.
Check this guy's books (one of the pioneers in this field) for more info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cope#Books
https://www.youtube.com/user/davidhcope/videos Some algorithmic compositions by him, you can hear sometimes plagiarism (including 1 to 1 passages from Bach). Whether or not this is limitation of the algorithm or the tone system is interesting topic (cause there are no infinite possibilities in a given musical "language", especially when you are strictly imitating something)

And plagiarism in court refers to end result. It doesn't matter what method you used to get something that is too similar to existing composition.

 

What is the upside for machine created music other than to enable an entity to employ technology so that in the either long or short term they can make more money than they otherwise would with an aqueous human entity. At the present time machines can mimic. The beauty of art is the human filter, the sharing of personal experience in the unique way that only that one person can express in a novel way.

In hacking the machine does it bleed?

 

You have just explained the influx of solo and duet people going into band venues late 1980s and telling management they could do it for half and they went in with either sequencers or disc backing and/or drum machines and thus began the decline of many smaller live band venues globally.
In expressive music in small ensembles that completely rely on human interpretation, it is very easy to tell if you know how the instruments work.

 

Ironically the better AI gets at producing music I believe the less interested people will be in it because the human connection will be missing - it's likely to result in more people seeking out traditional instrumentalists, people who can really play. It isn't even about the level of musicianship, people are just looking for the connection.

Forget everything I said if you're reading this 50 years from now and you're a particularly emotional robot - no offense.

 

Where can one acquire this AI technology?

 

I can tell if it's bad

 

You know, there are good programs and there are bad humans...
Beware, we're going to realize Herbert's Butlerian Jihad!

But no, I'm not so optimistic about the future like Kurzweil. Religions and cancel culture are doing their best to prepare the dullest of dystopian future.

Idiocracy will be only our minor evil.

 

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ART is not about.. SHOWING how Great you are.. it's about a Human expressing something ; playing a instrument feels GREAT.. not "Recording it" even "BETTER" ¡¡ so... your brain learns as you learn to play the instrument.. so.. this Ai crap is for FOOLS..